Game is Unplayable

[RocketDog]

Originally Posted by klem

We know there are improvements to be made which will help us all but I detect that some people are expecting too much of their current PCs.

I think the killer problem that's winding people up (me included) is that other games seem able to produce the same sort of graphics quality as CloD on mid-range hardware, but at very much higher frame rates. For example, I have RoF on my i7 920 @ 3.8 HGz, 6GB RAM, GTX285 PC and it runs very smoothly. To get CloD to run at all I have to turn down so many graphics options that it looks very, very poor by comparison. It's OK over the sea, but the terrain is particularly disappointing with a massive performance hit even to get it looking like FS9. Basically, RoF knocks the spots off it.

Now it may be that there is something special going on in CloD that drags FPS down. However, I don't believe this to be the case. Some posters have claimed it's the advanced FM etc that drags down performance. But it can't be, because the CPU load from CloD is actually very light with most of the grunt of a quad-core CPU going unused. I think it's actually just very poor software design, and Luthier's post saying that they anticipate getting much better FPS out of future patches suggests that 1C themselves know that there are serious problems with it in its released state. But the name change from BoB to CloD suggests that 1C know they have little hope of delivering large aerial battles over land. Hardly an encouraging sign.

If it is just badly coded, and they can make the CPU lift some of the load off the GPU, then maybe it's recoverable as a worthwhile product. However, if people find that they need a top-end rig to even make it playable at all (rather than just to enable all the bells and whistles) then it's doomed. Negative reviews and word of mouth will kill it stone dead.

There's also a serious concern that even if it can be made to reach playable frame rates with decent graphics quality, the thing is still buggy as heck and will need a lot of work to become a decent product. There are already a number of idiotic design decisions made in the game that really need to be fixed. The acid green landscapes are deeply unattractive and look nothing like I see when I fly over England. How could they get that so wrong? The aircraft engine sounds are terrible - where is the growl of a Merlin? The QMB-type thingy it counterintuitive and seems designed to produced Bf 110s with RAF roundels etc. I have no idea why they went with what they have now rather than re-use the IL-2 QMB, or copy RoF's neat alternative. Why did they spend all that time modelling tanks we will never see in great detail when the landscape looks so poor? I could go on, but it's just dispiriting.

Overall, I have found CloD to be a serious disappointment. Perhaps because I had expected so much. It certainly does make me wonder exactly what they were up to all those years since what we have finally received is manifestly such a rushed job. RoF survived a rocky launch because they hadn't built up player expectations and because it was actually pretty playable from day 1 but just lacked content. CloD doesn't have that advantage. Unfortunately, the closest parallel to CloD so far is the ill-fated Silent Hunter 5. I really, really hope that ubi don't walk away from it after two patches as they did with SH5 and that it all comes right in the end. But so far it's not clear which way it will go. I have my fingers crossed.

Ho Hum.

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by RocketDog

For example, I have RoF on my i7 920 @ 3.8 HGz, 6GB RAM, GTX285 PC and it runs very smoothly.

I don't have RoF, but I understand that it ran poorly when it was released.

But the name change from BoB to CloD suggests that 1C know they have little hope of delivering large aerial battles over land. Hardly an encouraging sign.

Are you trying to be witty? You're not are you - you're suggesting that the change in name is because the developers couldn't get the game as optimised as they'd hoped. Wow, even for this forum that's some imagination you have. It's still called Battle if Britain in Russia isn't it? Maybe they can have battles over land but we can't.

[GloDark7]

This game does indeed become playable with some tweaking.

If you don't mind abandoning your monitors native resolution, discarding anti-ailiasing and disabling half the terrain detail.

Yep, playable, but ugly as a bag of spanners...

[Il2Pongo]

he had to accept that the game, despite his best efforts has issues.

Imagine if the devs could have concentrated on what matters in this game instead of all the "that lorry drivers hat was introduced in 1944!"
and
London bridge was this colour in 1940 not that colour
and
that shade of green has never existed in england!
and
that kind of tree doesn't grow beside river's


LOL

The engine has issues. It is obviously a big disappointment for the devs, for Oleg, for all of us.

But for Tree its heaven!
HEAVEN
HEAVEN ON A STICK WITH BUTTER

THE GAME HAS ISSUES!
tree tried to save us, to fix the game, but he couldn't do it because we just didn't love tree enough. lol

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Il2Pongo

he had to accept that the game, despite his best efforts has issues.

Imagine if the devs could have concentrated on what matters in this game instead of all the "that lorry drivers hat was introduced in 1944!"
and
London bridge was this colour in 1940 not that colour
and
that shade of green has never existed in england!
and
that kind of tree doesn't grow beside river's


LOL

The engine has issues. It is obviously a big disappointment for the devs, for Oleg, for all of us.

But for Tree its heaven!
HEAVEN
HEAVEN ON A STICK WITH BUTTER

THE GAME HAS ISSUES!
tree tried to save us, to fix the game, but he couldn't do it because we just didn't love tree enough. lol

heh...

+1

[nearmiss]

Working yourselves into a corner, are you?

Go do the IL2 with TD upgrades... very excellent. The BOB COD will be a quantum leap better.

335 Grathos nailed it above.

Think of it like this, it is not a gamers game. Configuration and setup has always been an issue with IL2, why should BOB COD be any different. All of us, that have been with IL2 know. It is what we expect. Many of us has stated as much. The issues may persist for a month or more after initial release. All the users with their hot systems, and not so hot systems will have to tweak their systems for best use of BOB COD.

Just getting the key commands, setup with HOTAS is time consuming and mostly trial and error. You can literally spend several days trying to get the HOTAS setup, and then it can vary between Online and Offline play. LOL

It is the nature of the beast. If you must have plug n play, you need to be console player.

Calling BOB COD a game really doesn't describe it, except to say it is sold as one. The elements of what most gamers look for in a game don't exist.

I recall many times I've been involved in air combat. The action and immersion were so real my heart was actually pounding like my life was in peril.
I have never been affected like that by any game and certainly not a console game.

[335th_GRAthos]

Excellent News on this post (first post of second page):
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...t=20472&page=2

Originally Posted by nearmiss

I recall many times I've been involved in air combat. The action and immersion were so real my heart was actually pounding like my life was in peril.

+1, unforgetable experience


Jumping on the subject of this thread but with Good in mind, since you mentioned the HOTAS ordeal, the easiest way is to directly edit your confuser.ini (if you have not done it already, of course) It is a two-way process:
#1. Open a backup confuser.ini from now on "original.confuser"
Record your joysticks' (I have three) keystrokes on a neutral location (in my case, it is the change player commands or something like that, by default it is the keystrokes ALT-1, ALT-2, ALT-3, ALT-4. Exit the game so that everything is written on the confuser.ini from now on "confuser"
In "original.confuser" you can text search for ALT-1. Now you know where your new keystrokes will be saved in the confuser
Create a list of the names of your joysticks' keys.

#2. Open confuser and manually edit (add) the keystrokes to the functions you want.
The nice thing is that you can keep the old keystrokes AND ADD the new keystrokes as well. It is like the old IL2FB that could accept two different keys for the same command; I was very annoyed when I could not do the same in CoD (until I realised that the New command kept the old keystrokes and created an additional). And I was very happy when I saw I could do it directly on the confuser.ini

~S~