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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-03-2011, 11:56 PM
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I wonder how many users here get that reference.

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Hated that thing, half the time couldn't make out the codes at all...
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:14 AM
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I don't regret buying this unfinished game, but for sure this "review" is the epitome of fanboyism.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:38 AM
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I don't regret buying this unfinished game, but for sure this "review" is the epitome of fanboyism.
You have made less than 20 postings, and you call names.

There are many of us who have been with Il2 since 2001. We know Oleg, Luthier and what they will do for this community.

The game isn't unfinished, maybe it doesn't work well with your system. You need to spend time on this forums reading and you will find there are plenty of people who are already enjoying the BOB COD. You might read something that will apply to your situation.

Patches are coming as well. This is not some gamer gamey kind of application, if you are looking for an easy learn and burn you should stick with console gaming. BOB COD is a sophisticated, complex application that will take many hours to learn. If you are NOT interested to really apply yourself to learn... you are probably wasting your time.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:52 AM
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You have made less than 20 postings, and you call names.

There are many of us who have been with Il2 since 2001. We know Oleg, Luthier and what they will do for this community.

The game isn't unfinished, maybe it doesn't work well with your system. You need to spend time on this forums reading and you will find there are plenty of people who are already enjoying the BOB COD. You might read something that will apply to your situation.

Patches are coming as well. This is not some gamer gamey kind of application, if you are looking for an easy learn and burn you should stick with console gaming. BOB COD is a sophisticated, complex application that will take many hours to learn. If you are NOT interested to really apply yourself to learn... you are probably wasting your time.
Yeah... every thread i see the "if you are looking for an easy learn and burn you should stick with console gaming. BOB COD is a sophisticated, complex application that will take many hours to learn."...

Maybe helps if i tell you that i play IL-2, ROF, OFF, FreeFalcon, DCS Black Shark and A-10... My rig is powerful enought to run all these games on max, 1920x1080 4xAA, and don't tell me of "under the hood calculations". If you think this game isn't unfinished, sorry, you are a unconscious fanboy.

The game will get better sure, like i said, i don't regret buying this unfinished game (i read the forums before buying it), but i will not judge it based on a possible future, i had to RMA my crystal ball...

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Old 04-04-2011, 01:56 AM
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Yeah... every thread i see the "if you are looking for an easy learn and burn you should stick with console gaming. BOB COD is a sophisticated, complex application that will take many hours to learn."...

Maybe helps if i tell you that i play IL-2, ROF, OFF, DCS Black Shark and A-10... My rig is powerful enought to run all these games on max, 1920x1080 4xAA, and don't tell me of "under the hood calculations". If you think this game isn't unfinished, sorry, you are a unconscious fanboy.

The game will get better sure, like i said, i don't regret buying this unfinished game (i read the forums before buying it), but i will not judge it based on a possible future, i had to RMA my crystal ball...
Obviously, we should dismiss your remarks because you are just full of cheese and can't say anything nice about others or the BOB. You just need to write your own reviews and post them. It is darned easy to nitpick someone else when your own contributions are nil.
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Old 04-04-2011, 02:05 AM
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Obviously, we should dismiss your remarks because you are just full of cheese and can't say anything nice about others or the BOB. You just need to write your own reviews and post them. It is darned easy to nitpick someone else when your own contributions are nil.
Serious, "Nitpick"??? Dude... see what i wrote, i think its very probable that this game reach the awesomeness of the il-2 1946 4.101, but i can't lie to people... in it current state its hard to recommend this game, maybe after the promised perrfomance patches, before the USA launch... But the "review" is like the OP is in debt with Oleg, like he didn't PAID for il-2 and now cliffs of dover...

Just let the review for the next month, after the patches... Probably then the game will deserve a 9.0 score.

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Old 04-04-2011, 03:40 AM
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Serious, "Nitpick"??? Dude... see what i wrote, i think its very probable that this game reach the awesomeness of the il-2 1946 4.101, but i can't lie to people... in it current state its hard to recommend this game, maybe after the promised perrfomance patches, before the USA launch... But the "review" is like the OP is in debt with Oleg, like he didn't PAID for il-2 and now cliffs of dover...

Just let the review for the next month, after the patches... Probably then the game will deserve a 9.0 score.
Exactly. The users who reviewed the game should have had enough sense to wait for the patches before throwing the developer under the bus.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:27 PM
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Obviously, we should dismiss your remarks because you are just full of cheese and can't say anything nice about others or the BOB. You just need to write your own reviews and post them. It is darned easy to nitpick someone else when your own contributions are nil.
You think you are helping the game, but you totally miss the point. You are actually harming it more than you seem able to imagine.

All you are doing now, is abusing people about the state of the game, so after they buyed it, they will just try it and most probably never touch it again. Will they be waiting for patches? We can wait, for sure, but the newcomer to flightsim will just shelve it.

After reading your review and testing the game, what do they know? They know that the most advanced flight sim to date, as you say, is a worthless unplayable piece of crap. Will it entice them to stay in the genre and try other flight sims, like old IL2? I doubt it. Will they go and say to their friends to try and buy this amazing unworking piece of software? Well, they may recomend it to some people they don't like.

So, your contribution is actually most harmful to the game that the ones of the people that honestly state that in its current state, the game isn't worth buying.

The point is not to make people buy the game, this is the marketing job. Our job as fans, is to make people keep playing. For this, we need a fully fonctional game, in extenso, patched so it's at least playable on recommended rig. It may have some bugs, but anybody with the recommended hardware should be able to take the game out of the box, with default settings, and fly around and shoot things in quick missions.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:39 PM
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Eurogamer Denmark will not give the game a bad review "out of respect for the talented team who created the game"

They just wont review it at all (at the moment) and firmly point the finger of blame at UBI.
http://www.cleared-to-engage.com/201...iffs-of-dover/
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:52 AM
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I have given away many copies of Il2 and Il2 1946. I have found our genre game "PC air combat simulation" just isn't for everyone.

I recently made a real effort to find a IL2 1946 at the urging of my friend.
My friend anxiously installed it and stayed with it all of two days. He immediately wanted more aircraft, etc. I referred him to the TD upgrades, but it was too much trouble for him to mess with "all that".

IMO, it is probably best to tell people where to find it and leave them alone. If they are interested to take the time to learn and enjoy it good for them.

It just isn't a gamer type game.

I remember when I was into scuba diving. I introduced my friends to it by simple snorkeling first. Not one of the lot ever went any further. Learning dive tables or using dive computers, and the basic techie things just wasn't something they wanted to do. Yet, there are still millions of people that love to scuba.

Oleg will sell alot of copies to people who never do a darn thing with it, but admire the "stuff" for a few days. Don't care how much you talk it up, if they aren't into it... it won't make any difference.

Oleg has made his bid to our genre of player, and done the best job he can do. Those of us who are into it... will love it, and appreciate all his efforts for a very long time.
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