Game is Unplayable

[Sasha]

Besides all these ufinished elements of game... there are some elements that will hardly be finished or improved.

Development team are simply not gifted to create landscape textures and visuals... basically it is hardly improved from Fogotten Battles time.

As game becomes available in Western Europe - it is more obvious that landscape is not at 2011 level... and simply doesn't look like Britain.
Also it seems very cartoonish (Flaming cliffs 2 or A-10 have more realistic landscapes...)

Contrary to that, there are many, many - very talented moders who made gorgeous looking maps for Il2-1946 and if we take a look at 20 best maps for Il2-1946 - none of them is made by official team.

Why is that army of amateur artists ignored by Oleg ?
Is there any chance that developers would give them support to improve existing textures or produce new maps ?

[bongodriver]

Besides all these ufinished elements of game... there are some elements that will hardly be finished or improved.

Bold statement, what exactly do you imply will not be improved?

Development team are simply not gifted to create landscape textures and visuals... basically it is hardly improved from Fogotten Battles time.

by this insult to the devs one can assume you are a highly talented programmer? what is your portfolio I'd love to see some of your marvellous work

As game becomes available in Western Europe - it is more obvious that landscape is not at 2011 level... and simply doesn't look like Britain.
Also it seems very cartoonish (Flaming cliffs 2 or A-10 have more realistic landscapes...)

what, you mean DCS A-10, that game which was released as a beta, and Flaming cliffs 2, wasn't that a sequel to LOMAC (notorious for being a slideshow)
I'd love to play the version of forgotten battles you are playing, but from what I have seen ClOD kicks it's head in and rapes it's mother, it's a shame it won't be moddable.......just like IL2 wasn't meant to be moddable.

[robtek]

There is a saying that fits this topic, i believe:

(be positive and) Fly with the Eagles, or scratch with the chickens!

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

by this insult to the devs one can assume you are a highly talented programmer? what is your portfolio I'd love to see some of your marvellous work

What insult ? This is business mate, selling professional product for money... and right of client is to judge the product that is offered.

The only insult here is - insult to Il-2 worldwide community that was lured to prepay unplayable product (Are you reading any other related forums except this one ? )

( To advertise your "new generation combat flight sim" without Force Feedback - that is insult.)

Regarding myself, I am not professional programmer - so why should I present my creations ?

If people say that of Toyota cars have technical problem - does it mean that they all make cars themselves ?
If You say in supermarket that egg is not good, does it mean that You are laying eggs ?

Talking about work, I would suggest to You to examine 10-20 latest map works at www.sas1946.com... made "in free time by amateur creators" and compare them to map versions of "professional full time employed team".

Being genius for combat flight mechanics and not for a land visuals - it is life fact, not an insult...

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by Sasha

The only insult here is - insult to Il-2 worldwide community that was lured to prepay unplayable product (Are you reading any other related forums except this one ? )

No, I'm not reading other foruns, I'm playing the game. I thought it was running on my PC pretty nicely, but if what you say is true, and that people on another forum say it's unplayable, well I guess I must be mistaken.

[Space Communist]

Originally Posted by Sasha

*mindless drivel* basically it is hardly improved from Fogotten Battles time. *mindless drivel*

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...wow ok... I think I got that out. Yeah I would looove to see the futuristic moon-people version of FB that you possess.

[klem]

Originally Posted by Sasha

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As game becomes available in Western Europe - it is more obvious that landscape is not at 2011 level... and simply doesn't look like Britain.
Also it seems very cartoonish............................

I do agree with this. It is a bit Walt Disney and that is something we should press to be changed in time. It needs to be reduced in colour intensity and improved in general appearance to reduce that cartoon impression.

But that does not make it unplayable.

[bongodriver]

What insult ?

this one

Development team are simply not gifted

The only insult here is - insult to Il-2 worldwide community that was lured to prepay unplayable product (Are you reading any other related forums except this one ? )

just because you can't play it? are you saying YOU are the entire community? yes I read many different forums.

Talking about work, I would suggest to You to examine 10-20 latest map works at www.sas1946.com... made "in free time by amateur creators" and compare them to map versions of "professional full time employed team".

I know the SAS mod site well, downloaded plenty of stuff from there, more than qualifies me to make my arguments, and I am a modder myself (for a different sim) so I know the work that goes in to making mods, think about it this way 'mate' those map mods would be useless without the actual game to use them in.

[andmcq]

The game is, for 90% of people, unplayable. Just because a very small portion of a very small community (the Sim based one) can play it doesn't mean that the game is playable...

This game will be fantastic, but atm for all intents and purposes it is unplayable.

[bongodriver]

Where do folks get all these statistics from?