For Adonys

[SG1_Lud]

Originally Posted by kendo65

Bloody Hell!!

Thanks for the video Kalimba, but I'd just like to warn everyone that sound starts at ~20second mark on this - loud with gunfire.

Turned my sound up, then got damn near deafened!!

Apart from that very nice.

Too late!

There should be a filter for antideafening on youtube

[mazex]

But seriously all of you anti epilepsy filter guys? Have any of you been flying a single engine prop plane IRL? You DON'T see the prop like that. Period. That effect really should be possible to turn off for us that want a realistic view and no WoP style "game"

You see a slight vague haze, but not more than that. The effect shown here is a camera effect caused buy the camera taking a quick succession of stills for heavens sake! If we are going to have this then bring on the Star Wars lasers too for the tracers, or make them wobble like in WoP simulating a vibrating camera

The only plane in this game I've flown IRL is the Moth, but I can confirm that you see almost nothing of the prop while flying in that one either

[Strike]

Originally Posted by mazex

But seriously all of you anti epilepsy filter guys? Have any of you been flying a single engine prop plane IRL? You DON'T see the prop like that. Period. That effect really should be possible to turn off for us that want a realistic view and no WoP style "game"

You see a slight vague haze, but not more than that. The effect shown here is a camera effect caused buy the camera taking a quick succession of stills for heavens sake! If we are going to have this then bring on the Star Wars lasers too for the tracers, or make them wobble like in WoP simulating a vibrating camera

The only plane in this game I've flown IRL is the Moth, but I can confirm that you see almost nothing of the prop while flying in that one either

yeah guys^^

there's a reason they paint the tip yellow, it's so that you can see that theres a spinning prop there. Trust me, I work with aircraft. Have also flown cessna 172 and can confirm that the only prop I saw during flight was the one on my cellphone cam corder.

[adonys]

really? there you go, have a look. at some point, the camera is looking from inside the cockpit exactly how a pilot would look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM2-PoD-SgU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiU3VpP2VhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQxb-V-rZqA

[Il2Pongo]

that is an artifact of the filming, just like wagon wheels going backwards in a western

Originally Posted by adonys

really? there you go, have a look. at some point, the camera is looking from inside the cockpit exactly how a pilot would look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM2-PoD-SgU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiU3VpP2VhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQxb-V-rZqA

Well, Adonys, for someone who gets angry cause we don't get your point, it seems you don't get this fact: What you see in your videos are camera issues...with prop rotations...You don't trust real pilots on this forum ?
How can you be sure that what we see on film is the same as real life ?
Have you flown in a real prop plane ? Some here have and they assure us that we are not supposed to see much more than a faint glare..
So, who's right?

Salute !

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by adonys

really? there you go, have a look. at some point, the camera is looking from inside the cockpit exactly how a pilot would look:

Whether or not you see props in a video (or still shot) depends on the exposure length. Longer exposure means no props. Depending on the rpms the props become a full disc at around 1/60.

[adonys]

it is not just a camera optical illusion, it appears the same to the eye too, and indeed the way it appears depends on the rpm. I haven't seen them on real airplanes, yet I have seen them on plenty of real helicopters. the same effect actually can be seen on any rotating blades (propellers, car wheels protection plastics, old trains spiked wheels, etc).

where are real pilots flying single engine aircrafts (and not flying them just once), to answer this?

ps: and I'm not angry at all, just letting you know.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by adonys

it is not just a camera optical illusion, it appears the same to the eye too, and indeed the way it appears depends on the rpm. I haven't seen them on real airplanes, yet I have seen them on plenty of real helicopters. the same effect actually can be seen on any rotating blades (propellers, car wheels protection plastics, old trains spiked wheels, etc).

where are real pilots flying single engine aircrafts (and not flying them just once), to answer this?

I just did on the previous page. Like I've said, you hardly see anything of the prop in most cases, and I have flown at least 20 different single engine prop aircraft, among them the Tiger Moth that is in the game. I have also flown the Yak-52 and it's the same with that one (quite similar to a WWII plane even though it's a lot lighter and has a weaker engine - but it is a radial at least ).

EDIT: And as I just fly for fun when getting the time I don't have more than ~400 hours, but that is a lot more than "once" at least

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by adonys

really? there you go, have a look. at some point, the camera is looking from inside the cockpit exactly how a pilot would look:

Originally Posted by adonys

it is not just a camera optical illusion, it appears the same to the eye too, and indeed the way it appears depends on the rpm.

You just can't randomly choose video or still images to show what it looks like in real life, it's pointless. It does not appear the same to the eye. That's not to say that you can't get a video camera with the appropriate shutter speed to give a similar image to that of the human eye, but if you're just taking random examples they will be different.