Some tabloid employees among us?

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by DarkAdrien

This is a forum.

forum /ˈfɔːrəm/
▶noun (pl. forums)
1- a meeting or medium for an exchange of views.


If you can't report and discuss issues (or supposed issues) here, then it's not a forum anymore. The fact is at this time, this game has potential, but is crippled with technical issues. As long as the posts are not offensive, I don't see the problem.

The problem is to isolate real problems from false problems. Someone here is spreading FALSE and UNVERIFIED information, without taking 5 minutes to check them. That's not the purpose of a forum, we are not a tabloid.

And wasting everyone's time is very offensive.

[meshuggahs]

Kinda odd that nobody's yet to blame steam for the problems. I mean why blame oleg, luthier and ubi only when we can spread the hate even more!

I'll start:

I heard a guy translated a russian review in wich they declared that steam drops the fps by 20% on low end machines. Combine that with the ubi filter that drops it buy 35%, oleg's color corrections by 25% and luthier's flying hat by 15% we're left with 5% of the intended fps! I'm going to cancel all my preoders and buy random game X instead!

Surely selling a game that doesn't work is false information, I mean these things do work both ways dont they??

[PeterPanPan]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Surely selling a game that doesn't work is false information, I mean these things do work both ways dont they??

Oh, come on Tree. Do you really think that is a sensible and fair way of summing up CoD (and that's without taking into account the fact that you don't even have the game yet)? Do you not think your statement is a little naive, over simplistic, misplaced and antagonistic?

So, that's it then. According to you CoD "doesn't work". And then what Tree? What do you advise? That no one buys this game because we've all been led up the garden path by these disingenuous developers/publishers? Where would that leave us then? Ooh, let me think. Ah yes, got it ... there'd be no IL2 CoD for us to play with ... ever.

Look, the reality is that our hobby is niche, and therein lies the problem. The numbers of global players are small and so development/publishing budgets will be relatively small. Added to this the fact that that flight sims are inherently complex creatures, they will always be released a little buggy. That is our world, and we need to understand that and put up with it. The good news is that Oleg and team are passionate about their projects and they have a proven track record of getting things right. They will get this right, if not on initial release, in subsequent patches. BUT, they will only get this right if we let them. We need to stop all this negative crap and get behind 1C and give them the support the bloody deserve. Or perhaps you'd rather buy one of the many other WWII flight sims on the market with a proven 10+ year pedigree?

PPanPan out

Originally Posted by PeterPanPan

Oh, come on Tree. Do you really think that is a sensible and fair way of summing up CoD (and that's without taking into account the fact that you don't even have the game yet)? Do you not think your statement is a little naive, over simplistic, misplaced and antagonistic?

So, that's it then. According to you CoD "doesn't work". And then what Tree? What do you advise? That no one buys this game because we've all been led up the garden path by these disingenuous developers/publishers? Where would that leave us then? Ooh, let me think. Ah yes, got it ... there'd be no IL2 CoD for us to play with ... ever.

Look, the reality is that our hobby is niche, and therein lies the problem. The numbers of global players are small and so development/publishing budgets will be relatively small. Added to this the fact that that flight sims are inherently complex creatures, they will always be released a little buggy. That is our world, and we need to understand that and put up with it. The good news is that Oleg and team are passionate about their projects and they have a proven track record of getting things right. They will get this right, if not on initial release, in subsequent patches. BUT, they will only get this right if we let them. We need to stop all this negative crap and get behind 1C and give them the support the bloody deserve. Or perhaps you'd rather buy one of the many other WWII flight sims on the market with a proven 10+ year pedigree?

PPanPan out

No I have never advised that no-one buys the game, I have never posted that anywhere, my main concerns is that the Dev's knew this game wouldn't run well out of the box, right up to release we were asking that they show us some in game footage but they refused, now I know that they have issues but a statement before release would of been the most honest and best way forward and I'm sure we would have bought them more time, but to release it knowing it wouldn't run at all well shows a lack of respect to the buying public in my opinion.
I will say this though It took some pretty big brass balls to go to the stores and sign autographs and watch people spend their cash knowing there are inherent problems within the product. Respect works both ways here, people tell me all the time 'where is your respect' well mine is currently in my pocket and soon to be spent on this title, I would expect some back in return along with a little honesty.

[jimbop]

The devs really need to start communicating here more to allay some of these forum troubles. A vacuum will always be filled and many on this forum are already playing, regardless of whether this was intended or not.

[Tiger27]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Surely selling a game that doesn't work is false information, I mean these things do work both ways dont they??

Tree, what do you mean doesn't work, from the videos I have seen it works, although it needs some tweaking and there are some hoped for features missing, all these can be corrected, but it does work, time to drop the crusade and admit that although some of your concerns were correct most things you said have now been proven incorrect or at least vastly overstated, don't worry, like RBJ etc you will be remembered with some humour once this game has had some time to develop further, I'll personally always picture you with a tinfoil hat on and a placard with I told you so written on it

Originally Posted by Tiger27

Tree, what do you mean doesn't work, from the videos I have seen it works, although it needs some tweaking and there are some hoped for features missing, all these can be corrected, but it does work, time to drop the crusade and admit that although some of your concerns were correct most things you said have now been proven incorrect or at least vastly overstated, don't worry, like RBJ etc you will be remembered with some humour once this game has had some time to develop further, I'll personally always picture you with a tinfoil hat on and a placard with I told you so written on it

lol, I like it.