Kill streaks?

[meshuggahs]

Originally Posted by jimbop

This is a good example of the elitism I was talking about. I prefer full real servers - way to make someone feel welcome!

I prefer a good & realistic game. It's not elitism, it's just a different genere.
If everything had to please the masses we'd all be playing black ops and listening to lady gaga in no time. No thanks...

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by meshuggahs

I prefer a good & realistic game. It's not elitism, it's just a different genere.
If everything had to please the masses we'd all be playing black ops and listening to lady gaga in no time. No thanks...

That's exactly it though - not everything has to please the masses. But something does. These guys need an accurate WW2 flight sim that is a commercial success to expand, not just an accurate WW2 flight sim.

Originally Posted by Vevster

The problem is , what you asking for (playability with mouse, kill streaks etc...) requires development time, therefore money.

For what result? How many people would really like to fly a PC flight sim with a mouse?

Luthier specifically talks about making it easier to play with a keyboard in the vid (if the translation is correct...) The object seems to be to get people interested enough to go the next step. I bet a lot, but obviously not enough from Luthier's comment, did this with IL-2 initially.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by jimbop

That's exactly it though - not everything has to please the masses. But something does. These guys need an accurate WW2 flight sim that is a commercial success to expand, not just an accurate WW2 flight sim.



Luthier specifically talks about making it easier to play with a keyboard in the vid (if the translation is correct...) The object seems to be to get people interested enough to go the next step. I bet a lot, but obviously not enough from Luthier's comment, did this with IL-2 initially.

By keypads he meant at unrealistic settings you won't need so many levers and sliders to control the engine, or at least that's how I interpreted it!

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

By keypads he meant at unrealistic settings you won't need so many levers and sliders to control the engine, or at least that's how I interpreted it!

Must admit it would be good if he commented on this. The context at 10.30 seems to be about newbs but I don't know for sure. Wish I spoke Russian, could have the game already!

[Nike-it]

Originally Posted by jimbop

Must admit it would be good if he commented on this. The context at 10.30 seems to be about newbs but I don't know for sure. Wish I spoke Russian, could have the game already!

Luthier said that the game is more friendly for newbies, especially for the ones with keyboards, on low realism settings it's possible to fly with only 4 buttons.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Nike-it

Luthier said that the game is more friendly for newbies, especially for the ones with keyboards, on low realism settings it's possible to fly with only 4 buttons.

WTF this is not what I wanted to hear... My past experience with "easing the new comers" has led to a deprecition in complexity that the other end of the spectrum are crying out for.

I know it's a much smaller group at that end but for the no realism guys it will be flash in pot for a majority, usually they are waiting for the next Cod to come out... 1C will receive some money from them buying clod but very few will go on to purchase the next installation..

[Nike-it]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

WTF this is not what I wanted to hear... My past experience with "easing the new comers" has led to a deprecition in complexity that the other end of the spectrum are crying out for.

I know it's a much smaller group at that end but for the no realism guys it will be flash in pot for a majority, usually they are waiting for the next Cod to come out... 1C will receive some money from them buying clod but very few will go on to purchase the next installation..

From what I've seen CoD can be very realistic with all features enabled, definitely not less then original IL-2.

[winny]

I'm a bit surprised at the hostile reaction to this (wait, no I'm not)

Seems like a valid question to me.
Games developers have realised the best way to keep people playing is to keep giving out unlocks, just look at CoDuty. I've prestiged 7 times and I hate myself for it! For what? new interesting ways to kill stuff and a nice badge...

Problem with unlocks in a Historically accurate sim is that as soon as you apply any new wepon it'll mess the accuracy up.

The only real way I could see this working would be to have (like CoDuty) customisable player cards and ranking (for online) or even a space on your aircraft for unlockable nose art. Nothing too outlandish.


The guy in the video wants a b-17 for killing 20 Spitfires.. I wouldn't be surprised if he's never even played a flight sim before. He dosn't get that the rewards from a flight sim are more cerebral..

Sign of the times.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by meshuggahs

I prefer a good & realistic game. It's not elitism, it's just a different genere.
If everything had to please the masses we'd all be playing black ops and listening to lady gaga in no time. No thanks...

+1 this game is not aimed at a massive audience any attempt to do so would harm the product in the eyes of the simmers that have been hoping for a new SIM, you will need a joystick to have a go at this game...

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

+1 this game is not aimed at a massive audience any attempt to do so would harm the product in the eyes of the simmers that have been hoping for a new SIM, you will need a joystick to have a go at this game...

No, you need a joystick to be good at this game. You shouldn't need a joystick to 'have a go'. Take it up with Luthier. The simmers will buy it anyway as long as the sim realism is there as an option.