defiant-o-phobes

[Friendly_flyer]

One of the aspects I really look forward to is to try out if some of the pre-war ideas would actually work. The Daffy was intended to destroy un-escorted bomber formations. It was in a sense an answer to the "the bomber will always get through" doctrine. During 1940, the Daffy was thrown against fighters with disasterous results, the original concept was never tried out. Now, with FMB and/or some mates over for a LAN party, we can put the original idea to the test: Daffy against Schnellbombers (Do 17 would do nicely)!

[meplay]

Hi FF, i was just wondering what the 'Daffy' is?

[Moggy]

Originally Posted by meplay

Hi FF, i was just wondering what the 'Daffy' is?

It's the Defiant's nickname amongst it's aircrew.

I'd love the Defiant to be made flyable too. I think I've got enough good data for both the pilot and gunner positions. Once CoD has been released, I'll approach Oleg and co and see if they're willing to make it flyable.

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by Moggy

It's the Defiant's nickname amongst it's aircrew.

I'd love the Defiant to be made flyable too. I think I've got enough good data for both the pilot and gunner positions. Once CoD has been released, I'll approach Oleg and co and see if they're willing to make it flyable.

I think Oleg might be too busy with updates/bugs and the next releases of the game etc.

We could really do with some sort of outlet for supplying various third party companies and amateur modellers with this type of information. The Anson could easily be made flyable too.

I certainly don't mind helping commercial companies if it means we get more aircraft to fly.

[Moggy]

Originally Posted by major_setback

I think Oleg might be too busy with updates/bugs and the next releases of the game etc.

We could really do with some sort of outlet for supplying various third party companies and amateur modellers with this type of information. The Anson could easily be made flyable too.

I certainly don't mind helping commercial companies if it means we get more aircraft to fly.

Oh absolutely but there's no harm in asking. On a related subject, are there any sims which have the Defiant flyable or even in game, I'm struggling to think of any?

[Friendly_flyer]

Originally Posted by meplay

Hi FF, i was just wondering what the 'Daffy' is?

As Moggy said it was the planes nickname. I get these annoying habits from reading "FlyPast" too much

On a related note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rKYL0tW-Ek

[AWL_Spinner]

Re: effectiveness as a night fighter. I've shamelessly bumped an earlier post on the topic containing an excellent first-hand account. There's also interesting mention of De Wilde ammo.

[MB_Avro_UK]

Hi all,

The Defiant was designed to intercept unescorted German bombers in daylight.

At the time of it's conception in the mid-1930's, it was not anticipated that France would be defeated.

It was expected that German bombers would have to fly from Germany. And without escort.

British experience in WW1 was that two gunned forward firing fighters such as the Camel were not effective against Gotha bombers attacking London.

The Defiant fully met the Air Ministry requirements at that time. But times changed. France was defeated and German bombers were now escorted by Me 109s.

Interstingly, the best pilots in the RAF and the Luftwaffe during the 1930's were assigned to bombers. How times changed!

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[He111]

Originally Posted by Friendly_flyer

One of the aspects I really look forward to is to try out if some of the pre-war ideas would actually work. The Daffy was intended to destroy un-escorted bomber formations. It was in a sense an answer to the "the bomber will always get through" doctrine. During 1940, the Daffy was thrown against fighters with disasterous results, the original concept was never tried out. Now, with FMB and/or some mates over for a LAN party, we can put the original idea to the test: Daffy against Schnellbombers (Do 17 would do nicely)!

Yes, that would be good to test. Also good to setup, if possible, the defensive circle, Sqn leader Hunter devised (264 Sqn) when faced with 109s. Actually I think line-astern, descending, would also have been hard to attack.

He111.

[Moggy]

Sounds a bit like the defensive circles sometimes flown by BF-110s when they were attacked during the Battle of Britain.