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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-17-2011, 04:42 PM
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Guys, have some perspective. This game was originally supposed to come out in 2006. That's five years ago. I was really excited too -- only a week left! -- so I was extremely disappointed, and yes, annoyed, that news of the delay came so close to the planned release date.

But at the same time: 1) After a five-year delay, does anyone want it rushed out with glitches, multiplayer infrastructure that still needs tweaking, or other issues? 2) After a 260-week delay, a delay of a few more weeks is only about 1% more.

I'm quite certain 1C and Ubisoft have a good reason for delaying. They want you to part with your money as much as you want to part with it. But software can be unpredictable, and delays happen with almost every software product. Fact of life.

Certainly, 1C and Ubisoft could have communicated this a LOT better. A short statement from someone in the company on the delay, and confirming new release dates in various territories, would do well in quelling the online vitriol.

But to see this degenerate into personal attacks on Oleg's integrity is just embarassing. It perpetuates the flight sim gamer stereotype, and is the kind of behavior that sent many of the flight sim developers of the 90s/early 2000's into different careers, because they were tired of the immaturity of the community. (That's not hyperbole -- two Jane's developers told me about -death threats- they received.)

It'll come out when it's ready. You may have to wait a few more weeks, but I'm sure you'll play it for years afterwards.*

<Shatner>Get a life. It's just a flight sim.</shatner>

* Unfortunately, given how rare it is to see new flight sims anymore, that's no exaggeration
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:07 PM
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Hmm shame that i have paid for this product as many others have and yet you seem to express the opinion that its ok that companies false advertise about dates, I thought the law was TBC untill a solid date was in place?
Mate if you went to a convenience store and walked around and picked your produce then 'after' you have paid for it the clerk said put all these things back please as they are just not ready for you to have yet, would'nt you feel taken aback?
Most of us paid for the pre-order because Oleg assured us that the 25th of March was SOLID.
None has flamed the dev's at all, and you are the only one perpetuating the Flight Simmer stereotype, i think that its bullshit tbh, as this FS community that I have been in and around since the first years of the internet is one of the more mature communities there is.
99% of the crap is by people who have nothing to do with the community. I've seen them enter the forums about a month before every new flight sim that ive been following and stir this sorta crap up.
It doesnt happen when there is plenty of info exchanged between the dev's and community sadly as the heat has turned up, the communities questions havent been answered as frequently this time which has helped lead to this situation.
Not sure what has happened this time but its not off the greatest of starts.

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Old 03-17-2011, 05:39 PM
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Hmm shame that i have paid for this product as many others have and yet you seem to express the opinion that its ok that companies false advertise about dates, I thought the law was TBC untill a solid date was in place?
Mate if you went to a convenience store and walked around and picked your produce then 'after' you have paid for it the clerk said put all these things back please as they are just not ready for you to have yet, would'nt you feel taken aback?
Most of us paid for the pre-order because Oleg assured us that the 25th of March was SOLID.
None has flamed the dev's at all, and you are the only one perpetuating the Flight Simmer stereotype, i think that its bullshit tbh, as this FS community that I have been in and around since the first years of the internet is one of the more mature communities there is.
99% of the crap is by people who have nothing to do with the community. I've seen them enter the forums about a month before every new flight sim that ive been following and stir this sorta crap up.
It doesnt happen when there is plenty of info exchanged between the dev's and community sadly as the heat has turned up, the communities questions havent been answered as frequently this time which has helped lead to this situation.
Not sure what has happened this time but its not off the greatest of starts.
The game simply wasn't ready for release. They've been optimizing the sim until the last minute to get every last frame they can squeeze out of it. When you change things you can create bugs. Delays in the gold release causes delays all the way down the line for downloads, advertising, pressing, shipping etc. Its impossible to give a solid release date in this situation. If everything went well they may have made a March release, but it didn't.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:30 PM
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The game simply wasn't ready for release. They've been optimizing the sim until the last minute to get every last frame they can squeeze out of it. When you change things you can create bugs. Delays in the gold release causes delays all the way down the line for downloads, advertising, pressing, shipping etc. Its impossible to give a solid release date in this situation. If everything went well they may have made a March release, but it didn't.
Chivas, excuse my ignorance and the bone question, you seem very well connected to the team, are you part of it?
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:47 PM
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Chivas, excuse my ignorance and the bone question, you seem very well connected to the team, are you part of it?
Its called optimistic wild speculation.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:49 PM
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Its called optimistic wild speculation.
Must be your exact counterpart.

Just more polite...
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:52 PM
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Must be your exact counterpart.

Just more polite...
Seperated at birth, but i still got hang ups about it.
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:02 PM
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Its called optimistic wild speculation.


Pot calling kettle over?!!
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:11 PM
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Pot calling kettle over?!!
Ive been far far more right than wrong - thats what is most annoying about me.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:48 PM
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The game simply wasn't ready for release. They've been optimizing the sim until the last minute to get every last frame they can squeeze out of it. When you change things you can create bugs. Delays in the gold release causes delays all the way down the line for downloads, advertising, pressing, shipping etc. Its impossible to give a solid release date in this situation. If everything went well they may have made a March release, but it didn't.
I thought the 25th was given as a solid date, or do you mean that they made changes after they gave out the 25th date to the games industry? Doesnt really make sence to do it that way round, by that I mean if you keep tweaking and tweaking all the way till the date your game is ment to go gold couldnt that just go on indefinately? Besides apparently it went gold last week according to a russian games site.

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