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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-16-2011, 11:37 AM
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I just went on to the Steam FAQ and found this Q/A



According to the wording it is against the policy to allow anyone other than the account holder to play the game!

"Sorry I got this great game but I'ld be violating the conditions of use If I let you have a go!"

Now that is disturbing!


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WTF of course they have to have a one person login limit otherwise one person could buy the game and 50 people could play it....

Clearly you have misunderstood what they are saying, a friend can try the game by logging in with your account if you trust them but only one person can use the account at any one time.... I'm pretty sure no developer would use steam if they didn't have this limit lol
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:57 AM
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WTF of course they have to have a one person login limit otherwise one person could buy the game and 50 people could play it....

No I want to buy two copies of the game and have two people playing that game on seperate computers.

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Clearly you have misunderstood what they are saying, a friend can try the game by logging in with your account if you trust them but only one person can use the account at any one time.... I'm pretty sure no developer would use steam if they didn't have this limit lol
I think it is you that missunderstand, what do you think "Steam account are licensed for the sole use of the account holder." means?

According to that statement, what you suggest would violate the terms of the account and they could ban the account.

This is their wording not mine.

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Old 03-16-2011, 12:07 PM
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I think it is you that missunderstand, what do you think "Steam account are licensed for the sole use of the account holder." means?

According to that statement, what you suggest would violate the terms of the account and they could ban the account.

This is their wording not mine.

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I should hope letting a friend play the game in your own home would constitute "fair use", but then again I'm constrained by logic and software EULA's are not. I'd ask Steam themselves, if they have a mechanism for doing so. You might want to have a lawyer handy to interpret their answer.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:17 PM
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I should hope letting a friend play the game in your own home would constitute "fair use", but then again I'm constrained by logic and software EULA's are not. I'd ask Steam themselves, if they have a mechanism for doing so. You might want to have a lawyer handy to interpret their answer.
LoL ! I'm sure your right!

I know in practice that they probably wouldn't do anything unless the system was abused, but I don't particularly want to have to create another email address and steam account just to get a second copy of the game up and running for use in my own home. It's hard enough for me to remember one set of private email details as it is!

I guess obsessed flight simmers don't fit the useage patterns of the 'average' gamer. Steam needs to get with the times!

Do you think my 6 year old son is old enough for his own steam account? COD could be his birthday present!


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Old 03-16-2011, 06:07 PM
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No I want to buy two copies of the game and have two people playing that game on seperate computers.



I think it is you that missunderstand, what do you think "Steam account are licensed for the sole use of the account holder." means?

According to that statement, what you suggest would violate the terms of the account and they could ban the account.

This is their wording not mine.

Cheers!
TRUST ME you really need to read it again....

Its about stopping multiple users accessing one account that is it period, finito...

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Old 03-16-2011, 06:39 PM
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@ Skoshi Tiger:

Even if your initial question was basically answered already, I'd still like to give you another, full answer myself.

What people told you so far is correct. If you're going through with things the way you have planned, you need to buy 2 copies of the game and register them on 2 different Steam accounts to play them simultaneously. The Steam license agreement ties one copy of a game to a single Steam account that is not supposed to be shared and forbidden to be sold to other people. Even if some smartasses create a new account for every new game they buy on Steam, just to be able to hand it to others...

If you're going to run both computers over the same internet connection, you may encounter connection problems due to a hardware/software conflict. In the past there have been similar problems with other online games via Steam, where people could only play online with only one account at a time, since there was a conflict while running two similar games via Steam over one router at a time. This can be solved with a change of the right port settings on your router. I'm no expert on this myself, but if you should encounter this problem, there definitely is a solution on the official Steam forums for this.

To the topic itself:

I'm a major fan of Valve's online destribution service. I'm using Steam for many years now and it changed over time to the better, alot. Yes, it was unstable in the very beginning and the integrated Friends system was pretty unstable until late 2007, things run smoothly now and grant players like me many advantages. Yes, there are some negative points about the whole deal, too.

For some people the offline mode simply refuses to work properly. A mate of me has this problem, he couldn't find a solution for this so far and I couldn't help him out, either. I can understand people disliking Steam if this happens to them.

The other thing is the fact that you can't (or at least you're not allowed...) resell games that make use of Steam. Definitely bad for players who buy alot of games to play through once and then sell them again. For people like me who buy only a few games and play them for years Steam however is simply perfect.

Many complaints I've read on these forums however seem to be utter, excuse me please, bullshit. Don't get me started with "Steam is viruz!!" talking...
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:38 AM
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Well, thanks for your input Fritz X, it seems like you are making a balanced assessment of it.

You are one of the few people who use and like this service that actually went to the trouble to admit there are also drawbacks (as in anything else) and provide examples of them.
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