Look at all the features

[Hood]

Originally Posted by TacKY

LOL, calling me a fool because I actually want this game to succeed. If you think that the game will sell well just because there is "planes and stuff" then you are sadly mistaken. People want to know what they are getting when they buy a game not be suprised whenever they do make the purchase. Maybe I should sell you a car and tell you just wait until you pay for everything then I will show you all the features. Consumers don't purchase promises and just because a couple of people on a forum know his track record doesn't mean that everybody else does. The recent peaceful stroll videos set to slow music for a WWII Aerial Combat Sim is a little disconcerting especially when release is less then two weeks ago. Hell, it isnt even on Steam yet and whenever it does get on Steam, I am positive that the game won't sell if it says " IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover; Features: Oleg made IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 so purchase this game because they are nice people".



TBH though, the only feature I want is a Dynamic Campaign so if they had confirmed that then it would be a definite purchase so I hope that someone makes a mod like the Dynamic Campaign Generator.

Nope, calling you a fool because it is self evident and everything you type just confirms it. Personally I think you're trolling but even if you're not it just betrays your ignorance.

Have fun

Hood

[TacKY]

Originally Posted by Hood

Nope, calling you a fool because it is self evident and everything you type just confirms it. Personally I think you're trolling but even if you're not it just betrays your ignorance.

Have fun

Hood

I guess differing opinions makes you a fool, ignorant, and a troll. I can say the same for you because you think blind faith in a developer will sell copies. Have fun deluding yourself into think people will buy a game they know nothing about; also, try to make a rebuttal instead of blindly insulting because insults only show that you don't have anything worth saying so you have to say something to feel that you got the last word. That is self evident.

To clarify, how is wanting a concrete feature list less then two weeks before release showing foolishness, ignorance, and trolling? Like it has been said before, I will wait till the game is released and see what people show or say but it still doesn't beat a list that the developer themselves have said.

Originally Posted by swiss

I think you got lost and ended up in the wrong forum.

Nope, not spending an over abundance of money on one game doesn't mean I cant be on a forum. If you would of read above, the poster already clarified on what he said so there was no need to comment on it again.



This forum seems to have split personalities. One moment people are bitching about the lack of info then the other they are embracing it as a birthday surprise. SimHQ seems to be more adept at reality.

[BadAim]

Originally Posted by TacKY

Maybe if you would read the ******* thread instead of just talking you would know something about whats going. Unlike the people that want to the buy game based on promises, I want to know the full list of things that will be on the game. Oleg has a good track record but that doesnt mean that he wont have a game that flops and is bad. I am simply wanting an official feature list on the game's website or some other place so that it can be readily available to new people who want to get the game too. It doesnt matter that you are going to buy it based on Oleg's promises because the majority of people that he probably wants to buy the game are the people that have never heard of IL 2 or been on these forums.

I'm sorry, but do you realize how ludicrous that statement is? What the hell is a list of features that Oleg gives you but a promise? What difference does it make if you have a list of "features"? Most of the "feature" lists you get from game developers is little more relevant than the bull a used car salesman gives you. Do yourself a favor and do some research if $50 is that valuable to you. It's free.

[TacKY]

Originally Posted by BadAim

. Do yourself a favor and do some research if $50 is that valuable to you. It's free.

Research? Isn't a list of features better then searching through multiples of Russian sites and piles of forums for Oleg's comments. I guess some people value money more then others around here also. It seems as though the IL-2 consumers on promises have to turn even a simple request/suggestion for a COHERENT LIST OF FEATURES into a big ******* argument. I don't know whether you people seem to think that everyone is out to get you, like Steam lol, or you don't like it when people disagree or ask for something so minuscule but would help so much but then again, nobody wants any info or for this game to release because they would rather sit in the dark and hope to be surprised.

The only people lacking common sense are all of you that hate knowing the technical features of what you are going to buy. Blind ignorance at its best.

[Heliocon]

I am sure everyone knows my stance on this, but for the sake of everyone I will not be posting in this thread.

Thank me later

[TacKY]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

I am sure everyone knows my stance on this, but for the sake of everyone I will not be posting in this thread.

Thank me later

o____o

uh ... it's a game, people.


I can't believe I read through this whole thread.


- And, if you're on this forum I'm surprised you need game details spelled out for you, especially when you can read the reviews in a couple weeks (or so). Reading this thread you'd think CoD was something like a pension plan ... people sure seem to be invested in it one way or another.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by TacKY

The only people lacking common sense are all of you that hate knowing the technical features of what you are going to buy. Blind ignorance at its best.

I'll get a fightersim with online capability.
This feature is confirmed, good enough for me.

How much are $50?
Around here it's equivalent of roughly 3 Bugerking menus, king size - or 5 to 7 pints.

[BadAim]

Originally Posted by TacKY

Research? Isn't a list of features better then searching through multiples of Russian sites and piles of forums for Oleg's comments. I guess some people value money more then others around here also. It seems as though the IL-2 consumers on promises have to turn even a simple request/suggestion for a COHERENT LIST OF FEATURES into a big ******* argument. I don't know whether you people seem to think that everyone is out to get you, like Steam lol, or you don't like it when people disagree or ask for something so minuscule but would help so much but then again, nobody wants any info or for this game to release because they would rather sit in the dark and hope to be surprised.

The only people lacking common sense are all of you that hate knowing the technical features of what you are going to buy. Blind ignorance at its best.

I said in my first post that a list of features is of no value if you don't trust Oleg, and you answered by saying that you would rather have a list of features than trust Oleg. If you are at all capable of rational independent thought please apply this skill to the above concept.

[brando]

Well, I'm happy to risk my money on the new game and face whatever comes in terms of "technical features" and how to tune a) the software, b) my hardware and (c) my game in order to enjoy what Oleg & Co have been busy producing for the last six years.

It's been something like ten years since the original IL-2 Sturmovik arrived and overturned the world of WW2 flight-simming. I've flown just about every incarnation of IL-2 since then, online most every evening, punctuated with sessions of mission-building and hosting co-ops. All through this there's been constant updates, patches and expansion packs from the developers - and a deluge of third-party input from the community (long before modding started) which has made the progress of the game a joy to behold.

A point which seems to have been missed in this thread is this organic nature of the development. We have been given planes, maps, ground units and, imo, a fair representation of flight and damage modelling, plus the ability to use these features to create scenarios and share them with anyone who happens along. Ten minutes spent browsing http://mission4today.com will give you an idea of just how much has been created using the basics that Oleg's crew have provided over the span of the game. So, "the game" as it exists now, is a fusion of Oleg & Co's brainchild and the positive efforts of an active community. It's much more than a bit of software that plays out an interactive script bedecked with all the available bells and whistles that are a measure of much of the current genre.

I will bet you that this new IL-2 series will start good and just grow better with time as before. I think it's a pity to find oneself unable to trust what so many people are saying about the nature of this series and how good it can and will be.