Why 1C like Steam

[Kikuchiyo]

Originally Posted by TheGrunch

EDIT: As for the game updating issue, I don't understand that either...why once you've allowed it to begin downloading an update does that prevent you from playing the game on single-player? Does it still do that? Why would that ever have been a feature? I don't understand how it could be so hard to implement a check as to whether the player is playing the game before it begins the actual extraction of the update. It's just weird that Steam as a platform always seemed to be unable to separate the downloading and installation of updates for the convenience of the user.

I can't answer that questions about that issue as I never experienced it, but I do seem to recall hearing that complaint a couple of times regarding E:TW from co-workers. If that is the only time you experienced it perhaps it was more an issue with E:TW?

[TheGrunch]

Not sure...certainly I used to have it with Valve games as well much earlier on. I expect they're phasing out/have phased out that kind of update method now.

[Flying Pencil]

I would be surprised if UBI gets nothing from Steam sales.

[Codex]

I don't know what version of Steam you guys were using or when but at this time Steam will stop all of it's downloads / updating as soon as it detects a full screen app running, even one that is not listed in it's game list.

These errors you guys are talking about sound to me it was Steam years ago.

There are times when the current version of Steam will sit and wait for a while to login but it's almost always due to the fact that I'm in the middle of downloading something.

[ColdfireTrilogy]

Well I can conceed there are a few problems with steam. I don't see them being any bigger than the issues I've had with physical copies. I've had CDkeys already in use requiring almost 2 weeks to get a replacement key... fun. I've even had an issue with crysis and my dvd drive where the DVD drive, which I still currently use would completely refuse to aknowledge that the DVD was even in the drive, had to use a legit key on a downloaded copy ... not sure where that lands in the grey territory but since EA wouldnt help me I helped myself (only one occasion over the years but thats about as common an occurence as many issues these people are complaining about on steam).

I've used steam when it went beta with the launch of CS1.6 ... wow it was bad then. I bought HL2 and that launch was the first major launch it ever sustained up to that point... it was a mess. In the 6+ years since that point numerous updates and changes have taken place amounting to the fine piece of software that now exists. Millions of gamers use it every day and while the occasional few have issues ... the same # of people have issues with hardware, they just dont have a centralized location to complain about it like the steam forums so their voices are fragmented.

I almost wish 1946 had the benefit of steam, while all of you oldies love Hyperlobby, it was bourne out of necessity and it is definately not a great lobby software. Each person who buys IL2 is not notified that Hyperlobby even exists AND unless someone mentions it to them or they have the common sense to google search for a multiplayer function; they will never know 1946 multi-player even exists. That hasn't been healthy on our online community as the influx of players leaving has far surpassed the numbers of those joining even though many copies are sold a week on steam and other distribution sites. A centralized server querey site like a steam search or some method for game-monitor to hook into is an integral part of maintaining an online community these days.
Secondly, I've never been able to take a damn screenshot in IL21946 it instantly freezes the whole freakin game ... oh the moments of glory that will forever be missed. Suddenly last week steam releases an update that adds a screenshot button to the steam overlay!!! I rebind it to another key and WOAH screenshots that are instantly viewable in the overlay without having to minimize and/or paste into paint and save. I can take 10+ pictures in a few seconds and then go back and check for the best one just like a digital camera. Needless to say I now run my non steam version of 1946 through steam just for the overlay feature. It allows me to take screen shots and to browse the web while on the long bomber flights to and from target ... never get caught off guard like you would if you were minimized. I like steam, it has its annoyances but the gains FAR outweight the annoyances which I can frankly say I've never once noticed.

[Heliocon]

Awesome steal Novt - considering you visited my account / previous posts since you were arguing with me in the other thread (which "dissapeared").
I posted this already awhile ago, thanks for the credit though!
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...626#post230626

-Also the money still goes to Ubisoft via steam because Ubisoft is the publisher, they are just doing the same crap the devs could do themselves. At this point with the way things are being handled, nothing surprises me about the game or forums tbh.

[Novotny]

I reposted a link which FearlessFrog posted on SimHQ, crediting him for his post and also pointing out - as he did in his post - that he found the info on Ubi. Can't see any stealing going on there; I gave full credit as to where I found the info.

Besides, information wants to be free, my dear boy; you cannot run around the internet demanding everyone check to see if you said something first. Or rather you can, and it will be funny to watch. Go for it!

[Erkki]

Originally Posted by ColdfireTrilogy

I almost wish 1946 had the benefit of steam, while all of you oldies love Hyperlobby, it was bourne out of necessity and it is definately not a great lobby software. Each person who buys IL2 is not notified that Hyperlobby even exists AND unless someone mentions it to them or they have the common sense to google search for a multiplayer function; they will never know 1946 multi-player even exists. That hasn't been healthy on our online community as the influx of players leaving has far surpassed the numbers of those joining even though many copies are sold a week on steam and other distribution sites. A centralized server querey site like a steam search or some method for game-monitor to hook into is an integral part of maintaining an online community these days.

Not exactly true, there are approx 300 new users every week. Why is it not a great lobby software btw?

[Vevster]

Originally Posted by Erkki

Not exactly true, there are approx 300 new users every week. Why is it not a great lobby software btw?

There are not 300 new users per week on IL2 in HL, or there would be around the same loss of users.
Number of players waiting/playing is between 500-100 each time I log in.
300 per week would be noticed...


But I do think it's a great lobby. Been using it since 2002