Shame on you for using STEAM !

[Kikuchiyo]

Originally Posted by CHB68

Well thats for sure the most impressive pro argument !



My personal conclusion: You pay for nothing, have no rights on it and your datas can be used for whatever. You buy a limited, terminable, non exclusive license and right to use and Valve is responsible for nothing. In future you won't buy shoes, only the limited, terminable, non exclusive license and right to wear them.

WAKE UP !

P.S.: ....my last post on this.

Bolds things to change context. Gripes about standard EUA verbage. You do realize basically every game you play says nearly exactly that Verbatim. I also suspect that your agreement to this forum says something similar about communications through it.

[JG52Uther]

At the end of the day,those who want CoD enough will buy it,regardless of what obstacles etc are put in the way.Some won't and thats a tragedy for Oleg with lost sales.
Unless we are hit with a serious bombshell in the next 2 weeks (like pay to play) then I will get it.

[I/ZG52_Gaga]

I have no idea what steam is or Valve .. Actually i don't want to to know...

I refuse to go throught the three hundrent lines of the Steam - Valve Agreement -

and that is, before i issue a huge invoice (i charge a lot per Hour as a Producer & an Audio

Engineer) to someone for my time & effort ...

Who is going to pay for the fee of my lawyer checking out the possible sneaky claws

in your agreement ?

I agree to nothing!

I'm the customer - i will give my money only in exchange to be left alone - undisturbed - with frequently updated material (possibly paid one) - with the unlimited right to whine as much as i like about the product and without any software that will go scanning my drives and stuff ... (if this is the case - & this will have to be proven to me)

I understand that everytime you install something there are a thousent claws that you never read but you agree on and you click the agree button like a zombie ....

that doesn't make it less unreasonable ...

you click the agree button and on the other end a white collar freak is throwing a party ... on your expense ...

Too confusing ... keap it simple in a nice box and sent it to my place also!

Eh?

[Kikuchiyo]

Originally Posted by I/ZG52_Gaga

I have no idea what steam is or Valve .. Actually i don't want to to know...

I refuse to go throught the three hundrent lines of the Steam - Valve Agreement -

and that is, before i issue a huge invoice (i charge a lot per Hour as a Producer & an Audio

Engineer) to someone for my time & effort ...

Who is going to pay for the fee of my lawyer checking out the possible sneaky claws

in your agreement ?

I agree to nothing!

I'm the customer - i will give my money only in exchange to be left alone - undisturbed - with frequently updated material (possibly paid one) - with the unlimited right to whine as much as i like about the product and without any software that will go scanning my drives and stuff ... (if this is the case - & this will have to be proven to me)

I understand that everytime you install something there are a thousent claws that you never read but you agree on and you click the agree button like a zombie ....

that doesn't make it less unreasonable ...

you click the agree button and on the other end a white collar freak is throwing a party ... on your expense ...

Too confusing ... keap it simple in a nice box and sent it to my place also!

Eh?

So you have your lawyer read every EULA for every game you play? That is well wasteful of your money.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

At the end of the day,those who want CoD enough will buy it,regardless of what obstacles etc are put in the way.Some won't and thats a tragedy for Oleg with lost sales.
Unless we are hit with a serious bombshell in the next 2 weeks (like pay to play) then I will get it.

The tragedy is that so many ppl here cant see past the end of there nose (guess they wouldn't be good pilots anyway) steam will being 200 more players in for every 1 person here that refuses to buy it...

[Flying Pencil]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

The tragedy is that so many ppl here cant see past the end of there nose (guess they wouldn't be good pilots anyway) steam will being 200 more players in for every 1 person here that refuses to buy it...

Their are better ways to attract people then forcing them to subscribe to a service they might not otherwise use.

[TheGrunch]

Hey, it could be worse. When I used to play Dawn of War 2 you had to login to Steam AND Windows Live at the same time. Which is fine except that the Windows Live servers are dreadful, and you couldn't play the single-player campaign unless you could login, only skirmishes. Killed that game for me.

[BigC208]

I based my opinion on JG52Uther saying you needed to be online for offline play. Maybe no the most solid source. I'll do a little more research. Mind is made up though. No offline single player, no go. My loss for now for I want this game, nodbody's win.

[TheGrunch]

You only have to register your account, login whilst online once to activate your game, and then start Offline Mode for as long as you want. Forever, potentially.

[kimosabi]

Dawg don't hate the playah, hate the game yo.