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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-08-2011, 02:20 PM
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At the end of the day,those who want CoD enough will buy it,regardless of what obstacles etc are put in the way.Some won't and thats a tragedy for Oleg with lost sales.
Unless we are hit with a serious bombshell in the next 2 weeks (like pay to play) then I will get it.
The tragedy is that so many ppl here cant see past the end of there nose (guess they wouldn't be good pilots anyway) steam will being 200 more players in for every 1 person here that refuses to buy it...
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:56 PM
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Bolds things to change context. Gripes about standard EUA verbage. You do realize basically every game you play says nearly exactly that Verbatim. I also suspect that your agreement to this forum says something similar about communications through it.
I agree, its a standard EULA. When you buy a game you don't own the game. You own the medium its presented on but you do not get exclusive rights to do with that software whatever you want.
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Old 03-08-2011, 03:25 PM
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Here a steam user, the only issue I had was with battlefield 2 when I tried to install mods but apart from that never really had more issues with steam. In fact I love it. it's easy to use and the fact IL2 COD will use steam I believe it's a great idea. No more having to find the right patch to install it and I can find servers without having to install any other app.

I can only see advantages. About the DRM as far as I know it's even less intrusive than Starforce, it doesn't install any kind of driver. I think piracy kills sales and at least on PC if they want to sale they have to do something to avoid piracy.
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:01 AM
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Steam has a offline mode.
And who cares this day and age?
My internet connection is always ON. So whenever one of my pc's is turned on its online.
All people i know also have that.
..and many of them will be infected with viruses, root kits etc and/or be running system hogging virus scanners.
My windows install is not normally online. I use Linux. Windows is only for gaming.
I don't mind a one off online activation. Less keen about having to be online to get updates (normally I would download in linux)
With regard to Solidshield I'm less than thrilled to read this:
quote:"NOTICE: This game contains technology intended to prevent
copying that may conflict with some DVD-RW and virtual drives."

uh-oh

and if this is the case how can this:
"Once the activation process has been completed, the activation solution does not install any software on your computer" be true?
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:23 AM
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Bolds things to change context. Gripes about standard EUA verbage. You do realize basically every game you play says nearly exactly that Verbatim. I also suspect that your agreement to this forum says something similar about communications through it.
Uhm... You are arguing what exactly?
"That since some/most/all other game has the same draconian, customer
hostile, self-preserving, greed-corrupted EULA... we should quit complaining
that Steam has it?"

Please! Do allow me to chuckle at that concept a minute... *snicker*

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Furthermore, I have always bought games and given them away to friends
when I've grown tired of them... So, your ad-hoc assertion that "basically
every game has an EULA which prevents you from giving your game away"
is in dire need of more than a few quotes & examples to support it.
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:49 PM
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well thats for sure the most impressive pro argument !



My personal conclusion: You pay for nothing, have no rights on it and your datas can be used for whatever. You buy a limited, terminable, non exclusive license and right to use and valve is responsible for nothing. In future you won't buy shoes, only the limited, terminable, non exclusive license and right to wear them.

Wake up !

P.s.: ....my last post on this.
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