Kid is reincarnation of WWII Corsair pilot shot down over Chi-Chi Jima?

[Oldschool61]

Originally Posted by BadAim

The sad truth is that your serious. I only ask that you don't make fun of people who rather than declaring that there is no evidence and sufficing that for truth have actually done the research, and found the truth. I don't hold it against you, I used to be like you.

To me the whole reincarnation thing is silly, but I also understand that it's natural for human beings to seek after things greater than themselves, that's why the Jews made the golden calf like ten minutes after Charlton Heston went up the mountain, they just couldn't wait for something to worship. Everyone worships at some altar or another.

It's to bad that this thread couldn't evolve into a meaningful discussion, but that's unfortunately not the way of the forum.

I try to enlighten people. I was raised catholic so for a time I believed all the false stories as well. Then one day a few years ago I started to question this whole magic thing and said to myself if this is all true there would be lots of evidence to support it. Well when I researched the baby jesus I couldnt find ANY evidence other than hearsay. Not one eyewitness account NADA, all there is is hearsay that doesnt come into record until around 93CE. And the gospel accounts arent eyewitness accounts so nothing in the bible is considered archeological or scientific evidence. Not one historian from the first half of the first century ever mentions a miracle worker named jesus much less the roman records kept at the time.

[BadAim]

Oh, come on Oldschool, mate. Not one historian? What about Luke? Mark? Matthew? We have textual (archeological) evidence to date Matthew to within 20 years of Christ's death, and Mark shortly after. Luke wrote his two excellent histories with the benefit if these books and personal interviews with people who knew Jesus. There is more evidence for Jesus of Nazareth being a quite real person than for Augustus Caesar. There is one thing that there is no evidence for though. A Body. Had the Jews and the Romans been able to produce a body when the Christians were making such a nuisance of themselves, the little Jewish cult that was saying that this itinerant Rabbi who died on a Roman cross wasn't dead after all would have died just as surely as the rest of the Messiah cults.

Blind faith is a fools faith, and anyone who tells you otherwise, doesn't have any kind of real faith. If you hang around them long enough, you'll see. (As I'm sure you have)

BTW, Oldschool I don't believe the Catholics have the answers either, as they left the Bible behind long ago, but Jesus told me I have to love them too, so I do.

[addman]

Originally Posted by Oldschool61

I try to enlighten people. I was raised catholic so for a time I believed all the false stories as well. Then one day a few years ago I started to question this whole magic thing and said to myself if this is all true there would be lots of evidence to support it. Well when I researched the baby jesus I couldnt find ANY evidence other than hearsay. Not one eyewitness account NADA, all there is is hearsay that doesnt come into record until around 93CE. And the gospel accounts arent eyewitness accounts so nothing in the bible is considered archeological or scientific evidence. Not one historian from the first half of the first century ever mentions a miracle worker named jesus much less the roman records kept at the time.

Well, Pontius Pilatus was a real historical person (there's evidence to back it up). You also have to take into account that Jesus was an extremist of his time. Many people choose to ignore him because of his blasphemy, that of pretending to be the son of God. Surely they would not want people to know about such a person and hence they did not write about him. Speaking for myself, I almost never go to church for other reasons than the usual marriages, baptisms and funerals BUT not having ANYTHING to believe in must be a terribly hollow way to live this life. I believe in something but I don't know exactly what it is, does it make any sense? probably not, does it enrich my everyday life? yes it actually does. What I don't believe in is forcing your religion on others or judging others for what they believe in, I guess it's called mutual respect.

[swiss]

BUT not having ANYTHING to believe in must be a terribly hollow way to live this life

Not at all, why?
Live-enjoy-die.

yes it actually does

how?

[Novotny]

Come on people. This is a forum for video games; there's no need to bring arguments over religion into it.

I seriously can't believe we're doing this.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Novotny

I seriously can't believe we're doing this.

Not enough COD stuff around to discuss.

[BadAim]

It's a place for people to gather who have an interest in the same things, as I see it, like a bar or a golf club, or better yet the bar at the golf club. Is it impermissible for the conversation to wander from the topics of booze and golf occasionally?

[Oldschool61]

Originally Posted by addman

Well, Pontius Pilatus was a real historical person (there's evidence to back it up). You also have to take into account that Jesus was an extremist of his time. Many people choose to ignore him because of his blasphemy, that of pretending to be the son of God. Surely they would not want people to know about such a person and hence they did not write about him. .

Yes Pontius Pilatus was real and his reign is well recorded in Roman history. The Romans kept meticulus records of all events of significance. they even kept records of all there crucifixions and yet not one mention of anyone claiming to be a messiah. Do your own research of historical records of the first century and you'll be amazed that there is no evidence of baby jebus.

Gospels say he was famous in all the land, thousands upon thousands knew of him yet not one historian of his time ever mentions anyone named jesus.
First mention of a jesus is in around 93-94CE (AD) by Josephus when he mentions a person christians followed. Is this evidence? No its all hearsay evidence and most scholars admit it is almost certainly christian interpolations to try and sell the jesus story.

Believe me Ive been researching the historical and scientific evidence for this for a few years now and there just isnt any proof of any religion being true. They all revolve around ancient myths just like being reincarnated.

[Novotny]

Well, in most bars and definitely in any golf club, religion is off-limits, BadAim. Ah well what do I care. Go for it.

[Oldschool61]

Originally Posted by Novotny

Well, in most bars and definitely in any golf club, religion is off-limits, BadAim. Ah well what do I care. Go for it.

Lets not forget that most wars have religion to thank. Until man lets go of his imaginary friends there will almost certainly never be piece on this planet.