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Old 03-07-2011, 09:32 AM
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loock this:
FIAT CR32:
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CAMPINI CAPRONI:
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Old 03-09-2011, 03:47 AM
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I would like to see the Italian fighters handle a bit better. I mean didn't they call the MC205 the Italian Spitfire. Just a thought.
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:31 PM
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The Re.2007 looks like a F-86 Sabre.
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Old 03-09-2011, 04:20 PM
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I would like to see the Italian fighters handle a bit better. I mean didn't they call the MC205 the Italian Spitfire. Just a thought.
i was under the same impression, based mainly on pilots' accounts. But if you look at numbers (which can give a rough idea of turning ability) :

SpitV:
wing loading 131,5 kg/m^2
power loading 0,40 hp/kg
power loading with boost 0,50 hp/kg

M.C.202:
wing loading 174,2 kg/m^2
power loading 0,40 hp/kg

(got the data from hardball's aircraft viewer, hope its right)

it doesn't seem so unreasonable that the spit behaves better in both sustained and istantaneous turn. In this game even the 109 F2 and F4 turn better than the Folgore.

109F2
wing loading 172,9 kg/m^2
power loading 0,43 hp/kg

And add the slats to that. Again the question it's not that simple but i gives an idea. For comparison:

P40E
wing loading 177,7 kg/m^2
power loading 0,30 hp/kg

Which seems worse than the bf. but you can read noumerous accounts of p40 pilots outturning 109s in north africa. makes you wonder if the italian planes handled really that good or it was a matter of pilot.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:33 PM
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Here's a beautiful post-war aircraft, Fiat G.59:

One of those what-ifs that actually came true, namely, what if the Fiat G.55 had a Merlin engine. Less beautiful than the G.55 though, IMO.
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:17 PM
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yep, I talked to pilots back in Italy who flew both the G.59 and G.55 (and Mustang too): all of them confirmed that the G.55 was sleeker, but the G.59 was more docile, and above all never seemed to stall! The wings were so well aerodynamically balanced and designed that the plane would actually enter a slow glide and never drop a wing or make nasty surprises.
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Old 03-10-2011, 04:46 AM
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I noticed this:
many holders of fiat g 59 Australian pilots are relevant today.

However it is not 'regular place in il-2 sturmovik the Fiat G59-2 is an airplane designed shortly after the end of World War II.



this is the modern cokpit fiat g59:

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Old 03-10-2011, 10:40 PM
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Strange,Fiat G.55 with two propellers,like the late Spitfires?I would say that wasn't the G.55,rather the CR 44,but now things are messed up.

No way the MC.205 is the Italian Spitfire.In IL2 it flies like s...
Also,I saw somewhere luftwaffe officers described the Re.2005 performance as awesome,the G.55 as good,and MC.205 as regular.

The Re 2007 strongly resembles a F-84 with MiG-9 like cannons.

Despite what people say,you don't say stronzata at all.You could be useful as Oleg and TD RA advisor.

Oh,and what is the use for the pen at the G.59 cockpit?

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Old 08-18-2011, 11:22 PM
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Which seems worse than the bf. but you can read noumerous accounts of p40 pilots outturning 109s in north africa.
Eric Schilling posted about that being done in dives, same way that AVG P-40's and later Pacific War P-40's out turned Japanese A/C more nimble at lower speeds and in level flight.
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