Hotas setup for the upcoming Cliffs of Dover

[blampars]

Originally Posted by Sauf

lol, Q="Whats the first thing you will do in COD?"

A= "Spend 4 days trying to to set up my friggin hotas"

LOL +10 on this one

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Originally Posted by blampars

LOL +10 on this one

lol Im still trying to set up 1946

[Revvin]

Originally Posted by madrebel

does it limit even if not using DX buttons? i have never had the fighter stick and the combo with combat stick is exactly 32 buttons.

Each device doesn't have more than 32 buttons so you can use it without any mapping software and Direct X will see all of them up to its limit of 32 buttons and 8 axis. The Fighterstick has three axis 19 buttons and an 8 way POV hat. In my opinion better to leave them as separate devices so you can map commands to every button and more on top when you use 3 modes as standard or have 4 modes using CMS script plus you can have shifted functions on each of those buttons too if you really want to go to town on it. I don't think I've ever maxed out the number of combinations I could program on a CH HOTAS without using every single command in a game just for the hell of it.

Originally Posted by blampars

eventually i hope to learn the scripting on my own.. plan on playing with that script posted above for the mini joystick and hopefully i can get a better feel for how things work as a whole with CH CM.. Crazy how customizable everything is!

I started the CH Hangar site because I came from using Thrustmaster gear and so the CH Control Manager software was still new to me. I made some maps, learnt how to program so the site was set up to share my profiles and help others with theirs and its grown into what it is now. A lot of what I picked up either came straight out of the manual or from the help of others at the CH Hangar including help from Bob Church who actually writes the Control Manager software. Things like the script I mentioned about switching the X and Y axis from one device to another on the fly with the press of one button came straight out of the Control Manager manual. It was a script in its entirety in the manual and the example given for it was for two yokes in a flight sim trainer so the trainer could off hand control to his yoke to the pupil. I saw this and thought "why couldn't I switch these axis not just between two identical devices but two different devices like a joystick and yoke?" so I copied it in and tried it out. 531_Ghost has also created a handy beginners guide to the Control Manager software here which covers the basics of mapping.

Originally Posted by SsSsSsSsSnake

lol Im still trying to set up 1946

LOL I never put revision numbers to my IL-2 profile as I'd have run out of numbers years ago

Hi,

is the Thrustmaster Hotas Cougar recommendable?
I am looking at a precise Hotas and the hotas warthog is actually too expensive for me. Can the Cougar compete to the Warthog?
Or would you guys advice me to spent the extra 70-150 buccs for the warthog?
Thx for help.

[TheGrunch]

Originally Posted by Hecke

Hi,

is the Thrustmaster Hotas Cougar recommendable?
I am looking at a precise Hotas and the hotas warthog is actually too expensive for me. Can the Cougar compete to the Warthog?
Or would you guys advice me to spent the extra 70-150 buccs for the warthog?
Thx for help.

From what I understand, stock Cougars are very much worse than stock Warthogs, and modded Cougars are more expensive than the Warthog. Don't take me as a reliable source, though, I haven't tried either. I would wait for some detailed opinions of guys who've tried/owned both.

[ghodan]

I owned a cougar until 3 weeks ago.
They are not precise.
I sold it and bought a full CH setup (i am still waiting for my order.. ggrrrr)

So its simple: Stay away from a thrustmaster cougar if your want precision.
If you want super precision for low price then go:
http://www.thrustmaster.com/product....3&PlatformID=5
But it feels like a toy.
And the looks dont fit a WW2 combat sim (Yeah i know, a warthog,CH fighterstick etc also dont have the correct looks. But at least the Warthog is from metal and the CH dont look like a child's toy etc)

[Revvin]

Originally Posted by ghodan

I sold it and bought a full CH setup (i am still waiting for my order.. ggrrrr)

Ouch! where did you order from? its been a few weeks now?

[tintifaxl]

Originally Posted by Hecke

Hi,

is the Thrustmaster Hotas Cougar recommendable?
I am looking at a precise Hotas and the hotas warthog is actually too expensive for me. Can the Cougar compete to the Warthog?
Or would you guys advice me to spent the extra 70-150 buccs for the warthog?
Thx for help.

I got my Warthog with Saitek Combat Pedals on Friday replacing my Logitech G940 and I can recommend it wholeheartedly. The stick is very precise.

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Originally Posted by Revvin

Each device doesn't have more than 32 buttons so you can use it without any mapping software and Direct X will see all of them up to its limit of 32 buttons and 8 axis. The Fighterstick has three axis 19 buttons and an 8 way POV hat. In my opinion better to leave them as separate devices so you can map commands to every button and more on top when you use 3 modes as standard or have 4 modes using CMS script plus you can have shifted functions on each of those buttons too if you really want to go to town on it. I don't think I've ever maxed out the number of combinations I could program on a CH HOTAS without using every single command in a game just for the hell of it.



I started the CH Hangar site because I came from using Thrustmaster gear and so the CH Control Manager software was still new to me. I made some maps, learnt how to program so the site was set up to share my profiles and help others with theirs and its grown into what it is now. A lot of what I picked up either came straight out of the manual or from the help of others at the CH Hangar including help from Bob Church who actually writes the Control Manager software. Things like the script I mentioned about switching the X and Y axis from one device to another on the fly with the press of one button came straight out of the Control Manager manual. It was a script in its entirety in the manual and the example given for it was for two yokes in a flight sim trainer so the trainer could off hand control to his yoke to the pupil. I saw this and thought "why couldn't I switch these axis not just between two identical devices but two different devices like a joystick and yoke?" so I copied it in and tried it out. 531_Ghost has also created a handy beginners guide to the Control Manager software here which covers the basics of mapping.




LOL I never put revision numbers to my IL-2 profile as I'd have run out of numbers years ago

HI Rev,interesting that you were at the forefront of CH hangar, ok being a complete newbie with CH gear re the software,whats the best way of learning it step by step.it just seems a bit overwelming.
i have the Fighter stick pro throttle and pedals.
thanks for your time,its appreciated.
ssssssssnake

[Revvin]

Originally Posted by SsSsSsSsSnake

HI Rev,interesting that you were at the forefront of CH hangar, ok being a complete newbie with CH gear re the software,whats the best way of learning it step by step.it just seems a bit overwelming.
i have the Fighter stick pro throttle and pedals.
thanks for your time,its appreciated.
ssssssssnake

Its really just a case of reading the manual and trying things, don't be afraid to get in there and try somethign out its not like you can break anything. Before my current CH setup I had a HOTAS Cougar and the programming for that was not very user friendly at all compared to the GUI Control Manager had and what most other joystick manufacturers have created since for their sticks.

There were no guide's really which was why I set up the CH Hangar site. Since then a lot of users have contributed so now its easier than ever with guide's like the one I linked to above which will get you started. For scripting I'd suggest just trying out some of the sample scripts in the Control Manager manual which is included with the software. The scripts may not do exactly what you want but by typing them in and then testing them you'll get a grasp of how it works and just little nuggets of information you learn from that will help you branch out further. I'm not an expert with CMS script but if you post at the CH Hangar site I'm sure Bob Church among others can help you.