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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-03-2011, 04:34 PM
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I think it's clear that they are going to show us what they want, when they want to and no amount of posting is going to change that.

I honestly don't care either way, because i'm already sold on what i've seen and i don't mean the graphics (which i certainly like, it's just not the main focal point for me). It's the stuff under the hood that's most important for me.

In this sense and from my personal point of view, screw the 5 minute video of a dogfight, i would be much more interested to see a 2 minute video with a single aircraft and a developer commenting on and demonstrating 5 different ways to kill your engine without even suffering combat damage, or a few new ways of interacting with your AI crew in a bomber.

That doesn't mean my opinion is gospel, true. However, neither is the opinion of the people who demand videos focusing on graphics updates and nothing else

The way i see it, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but nobody's opinion carries more weight than the next guy. So if the lack of information on your chosen aspect of the sim is driving you nuts, take a step back and wait for the reviews and the first impressions of the people who will buy first. There's nothing wrong with that.

However, one can't constantly demand videos/information for his field of interest while equally important questions of others are not answered or even touched upon, then further complain about what he sees while the rest of us still have unanswered questions, go on to buy the game regardless of his apprehension on release day and then complain for suffering through the early "hiccups" and a huge patch download right after the installation and expect the rational part of the community not to classify him as a point-and-laugh case of whiner material because frankly, if anyone thinks they can have it all in life in a have the cake and eat it way, then they are sorely mistaken.

I'm not trying to single out any of the participants here, i'm just exaggerating to illustrate the point that some people will never be happy no matter what. Their opinions still carry weight to me, but they are not alone in making up the potential customer demographic, neither are they a majority or authority just because they usually shout the loudest.

All this constant talk of nothing but graphics and cinematic sequences is getting mighty boring and i'll tell you exactly why: it's too shallow a field to focus all our energy on when the complete sum of a game's parts in this genre offers so much more for the player to deal with.
They are good enough, let's move on already. Let's see some basic gameplay showcasing the new realism features with a bit of commentary for a change
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:21 PM
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If the game runs really well they will show us some video footage from a pilots perspective, if its running really badly they wont because it could affect sales. It does seem very odd to me that 3 weeks from release they are currently doing all thats possible to show us nothing.
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Old 03-03-2011, 10:46 PM
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If they are holding back on the 'good stuff' from videos for some reason, then they don't really understand how to promote what they will be selling very shortly.

Post the 'good stuff' when you've got it, as early as possible, get people talking, flooding forums with excitement, linking to the 'good stuff' and spreading the word. People will want that product yesterday.

Where is the 'good stuff'? OK, we're seeing some reasonably good stuff, but it's just good. It ain't great. All I see is IL-2 with detail levels increased and not much more. I don't believe anything is being held back this close to release.

Forgive my cynicism.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:52 PM
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Looked to be running pretty smooth on the leaked video, Tree.
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:48 AM
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Looked to be running pretty smooth on the leaked video, Tree.
Yes it did, it looked very good, but because it was leaked we cant be certain if any tools were used to make the FPS better.
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:51 AM
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Yes it did, it looked very good, but because it was leaked we cant be certain if any tools were used to make the FPS better.
I think you should change your nick to "Mr_NEGATIVE"!
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:56 AM
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I think you should change your nick to "Mr_NEGATIVE"!
Im not negative, im positively sitting here with an open mind.
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:55 AM
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If the game runs really well they will show us some video footage from a pilots perspective, if its running really badly they wont because it could affect sales. It does seem very odd to me that 3 weeks from release they are currently doing all thats possible to show us nothing.
Tree, this conspiracy theory of yours is strange, as anyone worried about how the FPS is only has to wait a couple of days after release and everyone will know for sure, all I can say is I hope you are wrong.
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:44 AM
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Tree, this conspiracy theory of yours is strange, as anyone worried about how the FPS is only has to wait a couple of days after release and everyone will know for sure, all I can say is I hope you are wrong.
Its not a conspiracy theory Tiger, its an observation, all the video we have seen taken via third party at the shows have shown lots of stutter when flying over land. The only smooth running video we have seen as been the leaked video, which as been the best marketing vid we have seen so far, this video alone as convinced many people that the game will run fine and I hope it does. However until we get an official video where we can ask questions then surely the jury as to be out on how exactly the video was made. For example if I had a beta copy i could fly over London with 50+ bombers and show a perfectly smooth running game by using the new video tools, i am not suggesting this happened but given the fact that the leaked video as diminished a lot of people concerns over FPS it could be seen this way.
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:23 AM
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If the game runs really well they will show us some video footage from a pilots perspective, if its running really badly they wont because it could affect sales. It does seem very odd to me that 3 weeks from release they are currently doing all thats possible to show us nothing.
I don't agree with you but I will correct you . The game should run fine in cockpit, if there are any stutters they will come from the third person perspective and when u have the ground in sight.

In my opinion and from what I have heard the game will run okay until you fly over a town.

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