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Old 02-28-2011, 05:39 PM
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My CH gear for IL2 is configured with the in game interface.

It was easy, which the CH Contol Monitor certainly is not, and I don't have another program running in the background.
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Old 02-28-2011, 05:47 PM
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My CH gear for IL2 is configured with the in game interface.

It was easy, which the CH Contol Monitor certainly is not, and I don't have another program running in the background.
The only problem with configuring it in game is you effectively limit yourself to 1 mode for your buttons, not to mention shift buttons which I find even more useful than modes. Granted there are a lot of buttons to use, but it's nice to have modes IMO.

CH Control Manager doesn't have to run in the background. When you download your map to your devices, you can close CH CM. The map is on/in your devices at that point.

If you decide at some point that you wanna experiment more with modes/shift keys and CH CM, I can give you my command file so you don't have to set one up yourself.

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Old 02-28-2011, 07:34 PM
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I highly recommend to give this a try:

http://www.ch-hangar.com/files/Docs/..._Guide_III.pdf
Edit, if you have some problems with acrobat...
http://simhq.net/downloads/technology/CM_D3.zip

It is like always, if nothing works read the manual and here you have a quite good manual. You might think that what you have is enough; still there are plenty of possibilities still to be discovered.

If I could anyone can.

Salutes Majo.

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Old 03-04-2011, 11:55 PM
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absolutely love the pedals,so smooth after using either stick or throttle for rudder,
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Old 03-05-2011, 12:09 AM
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I ordered my saitek combat rudders last night, hopefully get them this week if they have in stock. It says on the stores site that they do but i have been bitten to many times to bekieve them. Now to start some serious saving for a warthog to go with them.
After reading the reviews im more than ever aware now of the slack and difficulty aiming with my x52, even though i have various things, bits of cd, matchsticks ect, stuffed in to try and stiffen the tension.

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Old 03-05-2011, 06:59 AM
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lol Sauf, i found that with the x52,hope you get your peds quickly
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:56 AM
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I ordered my saitek combat rudders last night, hopefully get them this week if they have in stock.
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Could you please make a little "review" of them. I'm also thinking of buying them but there seem to be no reviews in the internet yet.
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Old 03-05-2011, 09:21 AM
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Could you please make a little "review" of them. I'm also thinking of buying them but there seem to be no reviews in the internet yet.
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Np mate, i found the same problem, will post thoughts when i get them.
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Old 03-05-2011, 10:44 PM
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My CH gear for IL2 is configured with the in game interface.

It was easy, which the CH Contol Monitor certainly is not, and I don't have another program running in the background.
control manager doesnt 'run in the background' per se. you use the control manager to literally program functions onto the stick.

as an example. ch managers uses 3 files. name.map, name.cmc, and name.cms

lets use cod as an example. when you click on the map wizard you then select your controls, combine all the controllers into one logical device, 8 axis/32 buttons, add script functionality, then click finish.

now you have a raw un programmed device with 8 axis and 32 buttons (more if you have the fighter stick i have the combat).

now on this raw map click on the program settings ta and on the lower right hand side where it says command file in that box type in il2cod or whatever.

now click on the CM editor at the top of the toolbar. click on the command file (cmc) tab. in here you can map any in game function you want. here, i'll use IL2 46 as an example. this is my cmc file from il2
Code:
// Aircraft Controls	
Rudder_Left_Full						          z
Rudder_Right_Full						          x
Rudder_Left								            ,
Rudder_Neutral							          /
Rudder_Right							            .
Elevator_Trim_Negative					      CTL KBDOWN
Elevator_Trim_Neutral					        SHF KBUP
Elevator_Trim_Positive					      CTL KBUP
Aileron_Trim_Left						          CTL KBLEFT
Aileron_Trim_Neutral					        SHF KBLEFT
Aileron_Trim_Right						        CTL KBRIGHT
Rudder_Trim_Left						          CTL z
Rudder_Trim_Neutral						        SHF z
Rudder_Trim_Right						          CTL x

Toggle_Engine							            i
Select_All_Engines                    CTL i
Select_Engine_1                       CTL 1
Select_Engine_2                       CTL 2
Select_Engine_3                       CTL 3
Select_Engine_4                       CTL 4
Select_Engine_5                       CTL 5
Select_Engine_6                       CTL 6
Select_Engine_7                       CTL 7
Select_Engine_8                       CTL 8
Increase_Engine_Power					        =
Decrease_Engine_Power					        -
Boost_(WEP)_On/Off						        w
Power_0%                              `
Power_10								              1
Power_20%								              2
Power_30%								              3
Power_40%								              4
Power_50%								              5
Power_60%								              6
Power_70%								              7				
Power_80%								              8
Power_90%								              9
Power_100%								            0

Prop_Pitch_0							            
Prop_Pitch_30%							          
Prop_Pitch_60%							
Prop_Pitch_90%							
Prop_Pitch_Auto							          SHF 0
Increase_Prop_Pitch                   SHF 1
Decrease_Prop_Pitch                   SHF 2

Magneto_Next                          CTL m
Magneto_Prev                          ALT m

Supercharger_Next_Stage               SHF s
Supercharger_Prev_Stage               ALT s

Increase_Mixture                      CTL =
Decrease_Mixture                      CTL -
Feather_Prop                          CTL f
Fire_Extinguisher                     SHF f
Flaps_Up								              f
Flaps_Down								            v
Toggle_Wing_Fold                      ALT w
Gear_Up/Down							            g
Raise_Gear_Manually                   SHF g
Lower_Gear_Manually                   ALT g
Cowl_or_Armor_Flaps						        r
Wheel_Brakes							            b
Lock_Tail_wheel                       CTL g
Jettison_Drop_Tanks						        CTL t
Toggle_Arrestor_Hook                  h
Toggle_Chocks                         ALT b
Open/Close_Canopy                     ALT c
Airbrake                              CTL b
Toggle_Seat_Position                  ALT p

//Weapon Controls
Weapon_1								              ENT
Weapon_2								              BKSPC
Weapon_3								              SPC
Weapon_4								              ALT SPC

//Bomber Controls
Toggle_Sight_Mode                     ALT KBDEL
Increase_Sight_Distance               ALT KBUP
Decrease_Sight_Distance               ALT KBDOWN
Increase_Sight_Altitude               KBUP
Decrease_Sight_Altitude               KBDOWN
Increase_Sight_Velocity               KBRIGHT
Decrease_Sight_Velocity               KBLEFT
Adjust_Sight_Control_To_Left          ALT KBLEFT
Adjust_Sight_Control_To_Right         ALT KBRIGHT
Auto_Sight_Mode_Toggle                ALT KBDEL
Auto_Stabilisation_Mode               CTL a

//Gunner Controls
Fire									                MOUSE1

//Views
Pilot_or_Gunner_Position				      c
Jump_To_Cockpit_1                     ALT 1
Jump_To_Cockpit_2                     ALT 2
Jump_To_Cockpit_3                     ALT 3
Jump_To_Cockpit_4                     ALT 4
Jump_To_Cockpit_5                     ALT 5
Jump_To_Cockpit_6                     ALT 6
Jump_To_Cockpit_7                     ALT 7
Jump_To_Cockpit_8                     ALT 8
Jump_To_Cockpit_9                     ALT 9
Jump_To_Cockpit_10                    ALT 0

Wide_View								              KBPGDN
Normal_View								            KBEND
Gunsight_View							            KBDEL
Cockpit_View							            F1
No_Cockpit_View							          CTL F1
External_View						            	F2
Next_Friendly_View						        SHF F2
Next_Enemy_View							          CTL F2
Fly-By_View								            F3
Padlock_Enemy							            F4
Padlock_Friendly						          SHF F4
Padlock_Enemy_Ground					        F5
Padlock_Friendly_Ground					      SHF F5
Padlock_Next							            u
Padlock_Previous						          y
Instant_View_Forward_with_Padlock		  KP0
External_Padlock_Enemy_Air				    F6
Exteranl_Padlock_Friendly_Air			    SHF F6
External_Padlock_Closest_Enemy_Air		ALT F6
External_Padlock_Enemy_Ground			    F7
External_Padlock_Friendly_Ground		  SHF F7
External_Padlock_Closest_Enemy_Ground	ALT F7
Chase_View								            F8
Next_Friendly_Chase_View				      SHF F8
Next_Enemy_Chase_View					        CTL F8
Toggle_Gunsight							          SHF F1

//Snap Views
Toggle_Snap/Pan_View					        F9
Look_Forward							            KP8
Look_Front_Left							          KP7
Look_Front_Right						          KP9
Look_Back_Left							          KP1
Look_Back_Right							          KP3
Look_Up									              KP5
Look_Down								              KP2
Look_Left								              KP4
Look_Right								            KP6

//Pan Views
Center_View								            KP5
Pan_View_Up								            KP8
Pan_View_Down							            KP2
Pan_View_Left							            KP4
Pan_View_Right							          KP6
Pan_View_Up_Left						          KP7
Pan_View_Up_Right						          KP9
Pan_View_Down_Left						        KP1
Pan_View_Down_Right						        KP3

//Comms
Toggle_Comms							            TAB
Voice_Comms_Key                       KP/
Voice_Command_Key                     CTL KP/
Teamspeak_Whisper_1                   ALT KP1
Teamspeak_Whisper_2                   ALT KP2
Teamspeak_Whisper_3                   ALT KP3
Teamspeak_Whisper_4                   ALT KP4
Teamspeak_Whisper_5                   ALT KP5
Teamspeak_Next_Channel                CTL KP+
Teamspeak_Prev_Channel                CTL KP-


//Misc	
Toggle_Auto_Pilot						          a
Toggle_Level_Auto_Pilot               ALT a
Bailout									              CTL e
Tinted_Reticle_Dimmer(German_Planes)	CTL d
Toggle_Mirrors                        SHF m
Cockpit_Lights							          CTL l
Navigation_Lights                     ALT l
Landing_Lights                        SHF l
Toggle_Map								            m
Zoom_Map                              RCLICK
Chat									                t
Online_Rating							            s
Toggle_Speed_Bar                      CTL s
Quick_Start/Save_Track                ALT r
Take_Screenshot                       PRTSC

//Time Compression						
Accelerate_Time_x2/x4/x8				      ]
Normal_Time								            '
Decelerate_Time_x2/x4					        [
Pause_Game								            p				

//TrackIR Commands
TIR_Centre                            F12
TIR_Enable/Disable                    F9
TIR_Mode_Switch                       F8

//Online IL-2 Server Commander
Help_Screen                           t < h e l p ENT ENT
Mission_Targets                       t < t a r g e t s ENT ENT
Show_Gunstats                         t < g u n s t a t ENT ENT
Show_Lives                            t < l i v e ENT ENT
Show_Timeleft                         t < t i m e ENT ENT
Recon_Air                             t < r e c o n SPC a i r ENT ENT
Recon_Ground                          t < r e c o n SPC g r d ENT ENT
Show_Planeset_Limit                   t < p l a n e s ENT ENT
Show_Warning_Level                    t < w a r n ENT ENT
Show_Teams                            t < t e a m s ENT ENT
now you'll notice on the left side the name of the in game function. on the right side is the default key map for that function.

all you need to do now is go to the control tab you, click the button you want to assign a function to, uncheck dx mode, and copy paste the function into the box.

example, i want to map the Weapon_1 function. i click combat stick, click the trigger (button 1), uncheck dx mode, and copy/paste Weapon_1 into the top "Press" box. You'll notice the sifted action box below which i could map anything to as well if i wanted. I use the pinky stick button as a global shift button which doubles every button in my logical device for any given mode.

once you have all your functions mapped you then click the download button on the toolbar and this programs your controller. so where the trigger defaults to DX button 1, once you program the stick trigger is now the enter key.

the cmc file also allows for basic macros. here is one from my ww2ol cmc file
Code:
Stuka_Nuke b BKSPC b b b b
what that does is first hits the secondary fire button 'b' then it hits the toggle weapon button to switch to the wing sc50 bombs 'BKSPC' and then hits the secondary fire button 4 more times. it does all that with a single key press.

I then copy/paste Stuka_Nuke into the "shifted action" thumb button on my combat stick and i have a single button macro to release all bombs on m stuka.

this may sound confusing but i promise you it is much easier to manage all your maps this way. as it makes mapping large complex configs much easier especially when you get into different mode states. again using ww2ol as an example i have mode one set for fighters and jabo. mode 2 for multi engine bombers, and mode 3 for tanks/ground etc. i can change entire function sets on the fly just by mode switching and if i want to change a function while i am in game for some reason i can just remap the function and redownload the map and it updates on the fly. no need to log out of game or back to the lobby.

www.ch-hangar.com is a great resource. lots of friendly folks in those forums. the mini stick rotary trim function i found there many moons ago and there are a ton of other great scripts already written.

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