I would like one question,why is not included in this part of the E4 Messer?

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by Voyager

I suspect one of the Spitfire Mk I versions is the version that only had 4 mg, and the other is the one with the full 8 gun wing.

As for all the "Why the E-3 and not the E-4?" I'm not seeing it. As near as I can tell, they are the same plane, with some differences in the internal fittings, and sometimes, but not always, a slightly different canopy, which means it requires both a new external 3D model, and a new internal 3D model. Making the E-4 is just going to tie up the 3D modelers for making a plane that's just like the other one.

I'm not seeing the price/performance ratio here.

Absolutly no 3D work would be necessarry!
Just change the armament code from MG-FF to MG-FF/M. And the MG-FF/M is already included in CoD for the Bf110C-4 & C-7 !
My suggestion would be to skip the E-3 totaly (CoD is still not Gold i guess). And than later release an E-1. An E-1 would need external and internal work!

The later canopy cuold be made for 109E versions in possible MTO or easternfront scenarios.
For the BoB E-1, E-1/B, E-4, E-4/B would be the perfect setting IMHO. The now selected E-3s are a little bit questinable
But anyway, the difference between firing a mineshell or not is perhaps not so huge : D the E-3 has still canons

[41Sqn_Banks]

Maybe the mineshells are selectable as a belting option. I know, the name of the Bf 109 would not be historically 100% correct in this case.

The don't give so much about the names anyway. Just look at the Spitfire names, the "a" in "Mk. Ia" was added to all machine gun armed "Mk. I" when the canon armed "Mk. Ib" came in service. So having a "Mk. I" and a "Mk. Ia" doesn't make much sense as they are the same subversion.

[JG53Frankyboy]

Main difference between these two spitfires will be the propellee i guess...

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Banks

The don't give so much about the names anyway. Just look at the Spitfire names, the "a" in "Mk. Ia" was added to all machine gun armed "Mk. I" when the canon armed "Mk. Ib" came in service. So having a "Mk. I" and a "Mk. Ia" doesn't make much sense as they are the same subversion.

I suspect it's been said already but that's not true. The Spitfire letter denotes the wing type, A being 8 gun, B supporting cannon, C a multipurpose wing of cannon or mixed 303 and E 50cal + cannon

[41Sqn_Banks]

Originally Posted by Osprey

I suspect it's been said already but that's not true. The Spitfire letter denotes the wing type, A being 8 gun, B supporting cannon, C a multipurpose wing of cannon or mixed 303 and E 50cal + cannon

IMHO the consistent wing type letter system was "applied" late war or even post war.

When the Spitfire I came into service there was only one wing type, hence there was no letter for it. In 1940 the letter "A" and "B" were added to distinguish between the machine gun armed and the canon armed version.
Spitfire II and V used the same system, "A" meaning machine gun armed, "B" canon armed. Then there was introduced the "universal wing" and machines with it were given the "C" letter.
Sounds like the wing type letter system, but then the Spitfire IX with Merlin 60, 61, 63 came in service, and the wing type system wasn't used initially! They all had the "universal wing" but they were simply called Spitfire IX without the "C" letter. When the Spitfire IX with Merlin 66 was introduced they were given the name Spitfire IXB - simply to distinguish between the different engines. Obviously not the wing type letter system.

After this the wing type letter system must have been "applied" retroactively to all marks.

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Banks

IMHO the consistent wing type letter system was "applied" late war or even post war.

When the Spitfire I came into service there was only one wing type, hence there was no letter for it. In 1940 the letter "A" and "B" were added to distinguish between the machine gun armed and the canon armed version.
Spitfire II and V used the same system, "A" meaning machine gun armed, "B" canon armed. Then there was introduced the "universal wing" and machines with it were given the "C" letter.
Sounds like the wing type letter system, but then the Spitfire IX with Merlin 60, 61, 63 came in service, and the wing type system wasn't used initially! They all had the "universal wing" but they were simply called Spitfire IX without the "C" letter. When the Spitfire IX with Merlin 66 was introduced they were given the name Spitfire IXB - simply to distinguish between the different engines. Obviously not the wing type letter system.

After this the wing type letter system must have been "applied" retroactively to all marks.

The 'universal wing' was the 'c' wing, ie it was able to fit cannon or mg's or both. The naming convention was probably thought up afterwards as soon as they had 2 wing types and needed to tell the difference.
The different engine types were designated by letter as an indication of the blower fitted, since all of these used the universal wing then it didn't matter, but it was a 'c' wing anyway. I've never heard of 'B' being used, that's very strange, LF and HF were used.

Now I have to look it up in my massive definitive Spitfire book........