Freetrack interface use in IL-2:CoD

[klem]

Another e-peening tour-de-force.

Its a simple question. If you don't care don't vote.

I have TIR, I don't care about FT, I don't vote. HT is a great idea. If I knew more about Freetrack (and I'm not going to waste my time finding out) I might think its a good idea or I mght think its a bad idea but that would be on technical grounds not some kind of emotional reaction.

As some people have said, why block something that doesn't concern you?

Hmmm maybe this post of mine is an emotional reaction to stupidity.

[Wolf_Rider]

don't care, so don't vote?
sorta skews the truer picture of what should be a survey poll though.... with non - compulsory voting, the gist of what you're saying happens anyway.

[norulz]

Besides ridiculously dodging the BIS subject, "NP PR" makes another mistake... by using just a single "user account" to constantly reply its nonsense... thus getting to a point where people reading the pages start to feel nausea about that... brand.

I mean... look at this thread... it's like a tennis court... NP guy trying to kick all the balls thrown at him that he think it might put the free versions of interfaces or software or even hardware in a bad light. But letting slip what it's "unpleasant" for NP to respond.

Question for NP.

Would NP consider to dump the production of consumer class cameras (TIR 4 and 5) due to the fact that multicores CPUs these days need only a tiny fraction of their power to calculate what "the chip" on their TIR cameras does?

NP could still sell the NP head clip or reflector and a more simple camera without the chip. Maybe including in the camera kit a small plastic (cheap) mechanism with which the user could quickly and conveniently switch the camera from a standard Webcam (with IR filter on and vis light filter off, maybe even some IR leds on for reflector use) to a IR only webcam (that has IR filter removed and normal light filter on).

Such camera and clip package could be sold around 40$ and given the fact that the software can be made in spare time (hey... look at the others...) would be much cheaper and better penetrate the market niche.

NP could still pretend that their interface is "better" and compete with the other market solutions...



Doesn't sound like a juicy business eh? I bet it doesn't...

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by norulz

Besides ridiculously dodging the BIS subject, "NP PR" makes another mistake... by using just a single "user account" to constantly reply its nonsense... thus getting to a point where people reading the pages start to feel nausea about that... brand.

I mean... look at this thread... it's like a tennis court... NP guy trying to kick all the balls thrown at him that he think it might put the free versions of interfaces or software or even hardware in a bad light. But letting slip what it's "unpleasant" for NP to respond.

Question for NP.

Would NP consider to dump the production of consumer class cameras (TIR 4 and 5) due to the fact that multicores CPUs these days need only a tiny fraction of their power to calculate what "the chip" on their TIR cameras does?

NP could still sell the NP head clip or reflector and a more simple camera without the chip. Maybe including in the camera kit a small plastic (cheap) mechanism with which the user could quickly and conveniently switch the camera from a standard Webcam (with IR filter on and vis light filter off, maybe even some IR leds on for reflector use) to a IR only webcam (that has IR filter removed and normal light filter on).

Such camera and clip package could be sold around 40$ and given the fact that the software can be made in spare time (hey... look at the others...) would be much cheaper and better penetrate the market niche.

NP could still pretend that their interface is "better" and compete with the other market solutions...



Doesn't sound like a juicy business eh? I bet it doesn't...

what have multicores got to do with anything? and there was a question asked of LoBi which sent him into meltdown; how did BIS integrate the FT? So I don't what this business of ignoring the BIS subject is all about...

"NP guy trying to kick all the balls balls thrown at him"? What am I supposed to do? buckle under the weight of that onslaught?? No! and I'm not affiliated with NP, did you miss that bit? So you (and your mates) are getting personal about it on a consistent and persistent basis, you're casting your free versions of questionable history and practice in a bad light yourselves.

As for your other questions to of NP, you'll have to ask them.. tip! be polite about though, it may help you actually getting a response (if any)

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

And there was a question asked of LoBi which sent him into meltdown; how did BIS integrate the FT? So I don't what this business of ignoring the BIS subject is all about...

Using Freetrack interface, FreeTrackClient.dll!

Don't - play - stupid - with - me!

And you can shove your "Mouse Look" whatever you want too!

Said that, why BIS can use FreeTrackClient.dll - will say again to the moron understand - FreeTrackClient.dll without any "legal" or "moral" problem?

But I will write again, because stupidity is hard to overcome:

- ArmAII uses FreeTrackClient.dll to communicate with Freetrack! You want to know how to communicate with FreeTrackClient.dll? I put in this forum the sample of command line code to get all the data needed, included in Freetrack SDK!!!

This guy is pathetic...

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

what have multicores got to do with anything?

Again, playing stupid.

Wit MC processor, the amunt of CPU used to process raw data from a cheap webcam and provide in the end 6DOF HT data is tiny.

NP have shivers with Freetrack because of that: for free you can do all TIR do with lessa money. Simple as that.

Who wants to buy te NONSENSE talking about "hack", fell free to embark into the vessel of genious like W-R... I'm living in 2011, and try to "copyright" one trivial thing is pathetic.

[Wolf_Rider]

all that describes the what and the method. LoBi, it doesn't describe the how it works... what does FT hook into with your ArmAII? eg, does it hook into mouse look, does it hook into NP, does it hook into yet another view system?

How many DoF is available FT in ArmAII (OoTB)?

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

all that describes the what and the method. LoBi, it doesn't describe the how it works... what does FT hook into with your ArmAII? eg, does it hook into mouse look, does it hook into NP, does it hook into yet another view system?

How many DoF is available FT in ArmAII (OoTB)?

This guy is idiot or what?

I'll not explalin AGAIN how works FreeTrackClient.dll. If you don't understand until now, you will never can.

ArmAII "hook with my ArmAII" providing Freetrack axis to these actions:

- 2DOF free looking, pitch and yaw;

- Lean right and left, X translation;

- Zoom view, Z translation.

So, 4DOF, like TIR does in ArmAII. If you use TIR, it's the same way to assign TIR axis to ArmAII controls.

What's your point now? NP have a "patent pending" with "looking" into games?

[swiss]

Originally Posted by norulz

Such camera and clip package could be sold around 40$ and given the fact that the software can be made in spare time (hey... look at the others...) would be much cheaper and better penetrate the market niche.

NP could still pretend that their interface is "better" and compete with the other market solutions...

Why should they do that?
If I sell something I try to find the point where the price curve cuts demand.
Even they sold triple the amount: 3x$40= $120, yet a single TIR5 flushes $150 into their account.
That would be kind of stupid.


Competition: I wouldn't call it competition when the alternative product is FREE.



edit:

given the fact that the software can be made in spare time (hey... look at the others...)

This point is ridiculous.
It's not about it can be made, but was made by some geeks who deliberately decided to work for free. They just didn't get paid for it. Cool.
Why do you think the latest version in from 2008, I mean, it's soooo easy?

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by swiss

Why should they do that?
If I sell something I try to find the point where the price curve cuts demand.
Even they sold triple the amount: 3x$40= $120, yet a single TIR5 flushes $150 into their account.

That would be kind of stupid.


Competition: I wouldn't call it competition when the alternative product is FREE.

Perfect the last sentence!

And I can't also call a normal consumer who bought an expensive product with a free solution available...

But wait... If NP can make that this free solution is blocked, maybe NP can be the only option available...

But is really hard to some genious here understand that... They think that's all "normal" in they amazing view of economics...