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Old 02-18-2011, 05:57 AM
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Thanks for the reply Thor. Is it then possible to replace the current and not quite correct one of PU to only one of the other mentioned codes?
Actually we only have the No. 1 PRU RAAF in the game ATM. Just took a look and was puzzled that I didn't find No. 1 Sqn RAAF at all until I looked at the PRU and saw the PU fuselage code.
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Old 02-18-2011, 06:44 AM
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Here is some information that one of our members found:

The 'PU' code currently used actually applies to No.1 PRU Squadron.

No.1 Squadron used (at various times) A, US and NA. 'A' was allocated to the initial delivery of Hudson's received by Australia in 1939. The code 'US' was assigned to No.1 Squadron in April 1940, just prior to it's move to Singapore in July 1940. It retained that code throughout the disastrous Malayan campaign and it's return to Australia (or what was left of the Squadron) at the end of March 1942; whence due to the very high losses it had suffered the Squadron was disbanded.

Upon it's being reformed with Bristol Beaufort light bombers in December 1943, No.1 Squadron was allocated the code 'NA'. It operated the Beaufort out of Darwin against the Islands to the north until January 1945, whence it was the first RAAF Squadron to convert to the de Havilland Mosquito FB.VI.

The 'NA' code saw the longest use with No.1 Squadron, although 'US' certainly reflects the more dramatic and tumultuous period of it's service in WWII.

The "PU" code was allocated to No.1 Photo Reconnaissance Unit (PRU). This Unit was formed at Laverton, Victoria in June 1942. It's role was to perform long-range strategic or tactical photographic reconnaissance missions. It's initial equipment was six Brewster Buffalo fighters with guns and armour removed and extra fuel tanks installed. The Unit moved to 32 Mile Airfield at Coomalie Creek, Darwin (later named Hughes Field) on 19 Agust 1942. From there it conducted reconn flights over the Timor Sea and DEI Japanese-held Islands to the north west. In time it collected a motley selection of aircraft including the above mentioned Buffalo's, plus Wirraway's, P-43 Lancers and P-38 Lightnings. Rarely did it's TOC inlcude more than six aircraft at any one time.

In May 1944 No.1 PRU received it's first PR.40 Mosquito's. The greatly increased range of the Mosquito allowed 1 PRU to fly as far afield as the Balikpapan. And when it moved to Biak it could overfly the Halmaheras and the Philippines.

On 9 September 1944 No.1 PRU was disbanded and from it No.87 (PRU) Squadron was formed. At this time the Squadron code was changed from 'PU' to 'QK'. No.87 (PRU) Squadron performed the same role as 1 PRU for the remainder of the War.



The information was in two separate posts. So I guess that the game in a sense is historically correct if you were to fly as No. 1 PRU.

If you were to visit our Squad's site (www.raafsquad.com) you would see that we use four different squadrons with No1 Sqdrn being our CO's squadron.

So with this information would it still be possible to either, add a No1 Squadron, and leave the current No. 1 PRU as is. Or remove the PRU and replace it with a new No. 1 Sqn RAAF?

We thought we would just ask and see how things went.

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Old 02-18-2011, 07:31 AM
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Adding No. 1 Sqn RAAF isn't a problem, but we can't remove any unit already in the game due to backward compatibility issues.

So which code should I use for No. 1 Sqn RAAF?
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Old 02-18-2011, 08:20 AM
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Ignore.

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Old 02-18-2011, 08:32 AM
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Adding No. 1 Sqn RAAF isn't a problem, but we can't remove any unit already in the game due to backward compatibility issues.

So which code should I use for No. 1 Sqn RAAF?
Good news, and thanks Thor and TD.

I have sent our CO an email, hope to have an answer soon.

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Old 02-18-2011, 11:01 AM
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I would like to request the following "improved payloads" for the FB.VI Mosquito, the P-47D-10 series onwards and the P-51D-5 series onwards (including the Mustang Mk.III).

FB.VI Mosquito
It's current loadout in the game is:
extra ammo;
2 x 250lb bombs (interior);
4 x 250lb bombs (2 interior, 2 exterior);
2 x 500lb bombs (interior);
4 x 500lb bombs (2 interior, 2 exterior).

In reality the FB.VI was also equipped to carry, in lieu of the external bomb loads (but in addition to the internal bomb loads):
8 x 60lb rockets OR
2 x 50 imp gal external underwing fuel tanks (droppable) OR
2 x 100 imp gal external underwing fuel tanks (droppable).

The P-47D-10 Onwards
Too numerous to mention all the various loadouts in the game (which is quite comphrehensive). However there are some loadouts missing, such as:

108 gal tank - introduced in September 1943
150 gal tank - introduced from 20 Feb 1944.
10 x 5" HVAR rocket.
First trialled by the 513th Squadron, 406th Fighter Group on 29 July 1944 against ammunition trucks at Gavray, France. The 5" HVAR was developed in response to the poor showing of the M8 4.5" tube rockets, which were hard to aim, had poor flight characteristics and had an noticable impact on the aircraft's flight performance.
The success of the 5" HVAR led to their being widely used, the usual load being 8 rockets per wing (although 10 could be carried). This did preclude any bombs or underwing fuel tanks being carried, although a centreline fuel tank or up to a 1000lb could be carried.

P-51D-5 Onwards
Current loadout in the game is:
2 x 250lb bombs
2 x 500lb bombs
2 x 1000lb bombs
2 x 75 gal tanks

In addition to the above the P-51D-5 onwards and the Mustang Mk.III could carry the following:
6 x 5" HVAR rockets
6 x 60lb rockets (Mustang Mk.III)
(Plus a centerline fuel tank or up to a centerline 1000lb bomb)
2 x 75 gal tanks
2 x 108 gal tanks (also used by the P-51 C model)

No.260 Squadron RAF was the first Mustang unit to use rockets (British 60lb version) in April 1944 over Italy.No's 213 and 112 Squadrons followed suit in July.

The USAAF P-51 equipped units commenced using the 5" HVAR's about the same time as the P-47 units ie from August 1944 onwards.

Hope these armament additions can be included in 4.11.
Cheers

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Old 02-18-2011, 11:26 AM
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Request for the FW 190 F8

Would it be possible to include panzershrek rockets as a loadout option for the 190 F8? Or would this require a new 190 F9 jabo variant?
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Old 02-18-2011, 10:13 PM
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'Redout' when inverted in normal flight, full 'redout' seems to come on very quickly.
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:43 PM
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I would like to request the following "improved payloads" for the FB.VI Mosquito, the P-47D-10 series onwards and the P-51D-5 series onwards (including the Mustang Mk.III).

FB.VI Mosquito
It's current loadout in the game is:
extra ammo;
2 x 250lb bombs (interior);
4 x 250lb bombs (2 interior, 2 exterior);
2 x 500lb bombs (interior);
4 x 500lb bombs (2 interior, 2 exterior).

In reality the FB.VI was also equipped to carry, in lieu of the external bomb loads (but in addition to the internal bomb loads):
8 x 60lb rockets OR
2 x 50 imp gal external underwing fuel tanks (droppable) OR
2 x 100 imp gal external underwing fuel tanks (droppable).

The P-47D-10 Onwards
Too numerous to mention all the various loadouts in the game (which is quite comphrehensive). However there are some loadouts missing, such as:

108 gal tank - introduced in September 1943
150 gal tank - introduced from 20 Feb 1944.
10 x 5" HVAR rocket.
First trialled by the 513th Squadron, 406th Fighter Group on 29 July 1944 against ammunition trucks at Gavray, France. The 5" HVAR was developed in response to the poor showing of the M8 4.5" tube rockets, which were hard to aim, had poor flight characteristics and had an noticable impact on the aircraft's flight performance.
The success of the 5" HVAR led to their being widely used, the usual load being 8 rockets per wing (although 10 could be carried). This did preclude any bombs or underwing fuel tanks being carried, although a centreline fuel tank or up to a 1000lb could be carried.

P-51D-5 Onwards
Current loadout in the game is:
2 x 250lb bombs
2 x 500lb bombs
2 x 1000lb bombs
2 x 75 gal tanks

In addition to the above the P-51D-5 onwards and the Mustang Mk.III could carry the following:
6 x 5" HVAR rockets
6 x 60lb rockets (Mustang Mk.III)
(Plus a centerline fuel tank or up to a centerline 1000lb bomb)
2 x 75 gal tanks
2 x 108 gal tanks (also used by the P-51 C model)

No.260 Squadron RAF was the first Mustang unit to use rockets (British 60lb version) in April 1944 over Italy.No's 213 and 112 Squadrons followed suit in July.

The USAAF P-51 equipped units commenced using the 5" HVAR's about the same time as the P-47 units ie from August 1944 onwards.

Hope these armament additions can be included in 4.11.
Cheers
You said it better than I did..
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Old 02-19-2011, 12:32 AM
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I wanted to draw attention to another issue that is worth looking at.

R_Target has done some very good research (as far as I can tell) on the F6F and it's top speeds. It's been long held in my head (and based one some preliminary tests) that the F6F was a little on the slow side. Target has gone and done some good research and has some specific numbers:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5041070725/p/1

It's definitely on the slow side and not by a little bit. Worth looking over the data.
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