Freetrack interface use in IL-2:CoD

[Wolf_Rider]

@ Galway

I'd wait for the VR helmet... screen resolution on touchphones, etc are really good now, so it shouldn't long.

VR Helmet with a wrap around curved high res screen, incorporated speakers and mic. and best of all - offering proper peripheral vision... yum!. Set the zero reference and hit the virtual skies in full real full real.



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Originally Posted by julian265

Rubbish. They'll cop more flak for not doing the logical thing and allowing access to the head control axes.

Why should they when it hack/ sponges off anothers' copyright and hard work? (I could explain "logical" to you, but I don't think you'll like it ?)

Originally Posted by julian265

You know perfectly well what it's for. Why you have to keep making the same point (amongst a bunch of other strange questions and straw-man arguments) that you don't like the way FT interfaces/uses/emulates NP software is beyond me.

See point above

Originally Posted by julian265

Until game devs do the logical thing (apart from those who already have!) and allow head axes to be assigned to, like joystick axes, I just don't care how head pose is communicated.

Mouse Look (aka Freelook) is available, as you well know... and why should any legitimate developer entertain the incorporation of a product which attracts abuse and threats from its users, or deal with liars, or incorporate a program/s which has/ have questionable ongoing support?

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

and why should any legitimate developer entertain the incorporation of a product which attracts abuse and threats from its users, or deal with liars, or incorporate a program which has questionable ongoing support?

Because the USERS of both Freetrack and the game in question demand?

Maybe you can ask to Bohemia Interactive these questions... Or you can't?

But maybe ArmAII and O:A don't have the same standards that IL-2:CoD will have... You can tell this to BIS too... They are a company who does "crap" military sims... LOL!

You talk a lot of crap. We can't be "polite", the "normal" path is a "moderator" close the topic without A WORD form devs.

Shame!

[julian265]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

Why should they when it hack/ sponges off anothers' copyright and hard work? (I could explain "logical" to you, but I don't think you'll like it ?)

Windows game controller axes do not need any NP software to interface with. Allowing anyone to control head axes with any game controller is absolutely not a hack, and absolutely not sponging of anyone's copyright or hard work:
1. Head control in games is under no-ones copyright (ie mouse/POV hat/whatever device moving the in-game head).
2. The method that windows game controllers use to interface with games is a Microsoft thing, nothing to do with NP.

I suppose you'll now tell me that the sky is red?

[Wolf_Rider]

we're not talking about Windows game controllers, Julian, the subject at hand is the inclusion of alternative headtrackers to the TIR


@Lobi

So, on top of the demands, intimidations and what are tantamount to outright lies concerning FT, you also don't understand how it works?

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

we're not talking about game controllers, Julian, the subject at hand is the inclusion of alternative headtrackers to the TIR


@Lobi

So, on top of the demands, intimidations and what are tantamount to outright lies concerning FT, you also don't understand how it works?

1) HT devices aren't "controllers"... Well, for me all are input devices...

2) I know! I want that YOU start to talk about HOW YOU believe Freetrack works, and why it's totally OK into ArmAII!

Let´s go...

[Wolf_Rider]

@ loBi...
well, that's what I'm asking... does the FT hook into the mouselook? (to be clear, I see mouselook as a defacto generic interface, that's why I keep mentioning it )

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

@ loBi...
well, that's what I'm asking... does the FT hook into the mouselook? (to be clear, I see mouselook as a defacto generic interface, that's why I keep mentioning it )

I use mouselook into ArmAII to move my gun and shoot at enemies. To look around in another direction, lean and zoom, I use Freetrack hooked into Freetrack Interface...

Do you have ArmAII and Freetrack installed in your computer, W-R? You can try here and see how it works!

[Wolf_Rider]

@ Lobi..
yes, you've said that before about the FT interface, but the bit I (for one) be curious about is; how does the interface interact with the ArmAII/ other game?

[julian265]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

we're not talking about Windows game controllers, Julian, the subject at hand is the inclusion of alternative headtrackers to the TIR

I don't care what you were talking about - if you quote a post and agree or disagree, then that is the subject at hand. And as the meaning of game devs "allowing access to the head control axes" is perfectly clear, it's obvious that you've used the straw-man argument trick again, disagreeing with a point that I never made.

It's not surprising that people don't use such a method face-to-face.

[Wolf_Rider]

none of that, however, has anything to do with the subject at hand, Julian.
The subject at hand, is the inclusion of alternative headtrackers to TIR, is it not?

now... I believe we're waiting for Lobi to get back to us (I mean if you're going to push a product, it should be understood how it works )