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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-16-2011, 08:05 PM
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Another thread gone down the toilet. I sure hope things change after release around here. I mean c'mon.... If you don't agree with the guy than why flame him? Save yourself the time and move on. Maybe, just maybe this is an issue that will be brought to light. Honestly none of you know for sure, so give him some space.
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Old 02-16-2011, 08:30 PM
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Maybe you're right Tacoma, but if this was my product and my forum, I'd appreciate it if someone emailed me first with telling he found these films, and he'd ask if they are relevant.
Imagine if someone made us believe (we'd be fools) these films are from the final, the amount of upheaval it would've created. And more important: negative responses from the games media and as a result, poor sales. The release date is very soon and a traveling idea that the game would be released riddled with bugs is a potential nightmare for them - remember the reaction to the leaked beta movies. But maybe I'm a bit too negative myself.
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Old 02-16-2011, 09:05 PM
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Well i have to say, you make sense. I do agree with you there, but I was just sticking up him. I could just see a lynching about to happen lol But whats new i guess...
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:31 PM
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Dear god....what sad gits you are nit-picking Betas

Speechless really.
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Old 02-16-2011, 11:16 PM
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Someone actually posts an insightful post pointing out mistake he found and you guys are flaming him?

I guess the only discussion we are allowed to have on these boards is about distant aircraft pixel size and the colour of the grass.

Don't mind these sperglords, I'm sure Oleg appreciates someone who knows how to bring to attention perceived mistakes.

p.s. "nitpicking a beta" . . . Ideally you're supposed to point out mistakes before the game ships. Oleg has two options, fix them or ignore them. I'm sure he's a big enough boy to make his own decisions without your guys "protecting" him.
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Old 02-16-2011, 11:58 PM
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*straps on flame-retardant underwear*

Perhaps this post has been made with the best of intentions, however I think it's possible that experts in their field - which I hope we'd all agree that the authors are - are perhaps aware of the listed shortcomings.

To my mind, it's a bit like watching a great artist at work and hovering nearby, pointing out things that do not look right. They may not look right quite yet, however he didn't become a revered artist by making bloody obvious mistakes. Perhaps he hasn't got round to fixing that bit up yet.

'Ah ha!' you say. 'He'd never fix it if I didn't point it out!' Well, perhaps. But maybe we should wait until he says that he's done before we seek faults.

I've said this before, but I do believe that people who are actually paid to know what a Spitfire cockpit looks like might be better informed than people who are paid to well, do something else. To some, this seems like a logical leap too far.

Edit: let me ask Speculum Jockey, who may be a gynecologist, or may just be a wishful thinker, how he would feel if I watched him work and and claimed he was doing it wrong all the time, despite never having um, gynecologised. 'You're ripping her flaps!' 'I'm not, the anesthetist has relaxed the vulva.' 'You can't do that, it'll tear the membrame!' 'the membrame is completely at ease'- 'she'll die if you do that!!' 'Stop bringing your inadequacies into this'.

Post op: 'Thank you, surgeon, my wife is on the mend!' 'Yes, and thank you for all your bloody 'help'.'

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Old 02-17-2011, 12:20 AM
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I think Oleg aught to use the same business model I do: Price is adjustable according to how much the customer helps. The more he helps, the more expensive it gets.

I can think of several people who would be paying several hundred for their copy of COD.

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Old 02-17-2011, 12:32 AM
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Edit: let me ask Speculum Jockey, who may be a gynecologist, or may just be a wishful thinker, how he would feel if I watched him work and and claimed he was doing it wrong all the time, despite never having um, gynecologised. 'You're ripping her flaps!' 'I'm not, the anesthetist has relaxed the vulva.' 'You can't do that, it'll tear the membrame!' 'the membrame is completely at ease'- 'she'll die if you do that!!' 'Stop bringing your inadequacies into this'.

Post op: 'Thank you, surgeon, my wife is on the mend!' 'Yes, and thank you for all your bloody 'help'.'
Oleg and Luthier have posted tons of screen caps here in the past few years that resulted in people pointing out errors that were in turn fixed.

BF-110 Pitot tube, A&M logo, wrong radio mast placement, etc... all fixed after observant posters pointed them out.

As for you looking over my shoulder and pointing out mistakes, I would appreciate it if you could prove they were in fact mistakes like was posted in this thread and in threads past. As for my patients, no lawsuits so far! (knock on wood)
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