Rise of Flight - To buy or not to buy?

[Alien]

Originally Posted by vanderstok

Too lazy? I have never seen a small team work so hard and deliver so much as the RoF team did. I'm pretty sure the same goes for the CoD team.

You must be one of those strange creatures that think by throwing insults they'll get what they want. Or is that just how your parents raised you?

Oh please, c'mon! How could RoF with 4 planes, and almost none physics compare to CoD?! If it had to, you'd have in CoD only Hurricane, Spitfire, Bf 109 and Stuka available AT ALL and have to PAY MONEY for rest of content which SHOULD be included for that 50-60 bucks!

[BigC208]

Almost no physics? That program has lot's of physics, 100% realistic? nope, but better than anything this side of a 6 million dollar level D sim at Flight Safety International. I bought the Iron Cross Edition that had 8 planes plus one bonus plane.

You're right, when it came out a year ago, it was not a finnished product. I did not buy it then because of the DRM requirements. When they dropped those I looked at it again. The $50 I spend on ICE was worth every penny. Including the 50 bucks I spend on extra aircraft.

We got spoiled by how Oleg gave us all the free stuff when Il2 came out. Those days are over. If you want to play you got to pay. Don't go all negative on a game because it cost more than you're willing to pay. Judge it on it's merits.

[Alien]

Well I didn't judge a game, but compared it IN MOMENT OF RELEASE to expected Il-2 CoD's content IN MOMENT OF RELEASE. I didn't want it to sound like criticism.

[Jotaele]

Buy it, you will enjoy a totally diferent way to dogfight , a easy ready to fly game with autoupdates, few controls to learn and configure (its a bit more complex to finetunning it,joy in example), and the most important, you support the flight sim industrie, not only this sim.Each time one sim becomes a good inversion, more problabilitis you have of futures inversions.

[SAS]

Originally Posted by BigC208

Almost no physics? That program has lot's of physics

yes it has.
this game gives me so believable feeling of flight that taking off one time in Dr1 after half-of-year pause in flying rof - taking me back again to flying this scrap planes
and damn it good!
feeling of aircraft, wind noise in the ears, rattle of this prehistoric mg's...
this game makes you believe that you're flying, rather than riding on the railes

[Redwan]

Why can't you buy both ?

Is it so expensive that you heed the assessment of the manrimonial budget authority first

I was a beta tester in ROF. I would try to sum up cons and pros.

pros:
- best FM up to date; DM too to some extent
- features newer seen before in a sim (like realistic sun glare, moving clouds with moving cloud shadows; you can extinguish engine fire with fast dive etc etc)
- realistic weather with impact on FM
- nice graphics
- very detailed cockpits and plane models
- friendly community (they have "fights too", thats how it is with simmers, but generally friendly and at hand if needed)
- devs listen their customers however on some issues they are stubborn (some of them spec.) and will not change a thing...

cons:
- optimisation/graphics problems (on some systems (even on latest HW) some users experience flashy textures (me included) when flying over no mans land - this is due to "optimisation" as explained from devs; on some systems stutters often, flickering landscape on some areas etc etc)...it was explained that its "hardcoded" and will not be changed.....this started to happen after introducing cloud shadows...
- ackward and non intuitive mission editor
- still no career mode
- small multiplayer community (50 players at best at weekends; and that is on most popular server)
- FM issues on some planes still not fixed (N17 roll rate, se5a engine etc..)
- limitations regarding number of units (planes and ground units) on server...very limited for smooth gameplay
- lack of AA on landscape resulting in heavy shimmering for most players....
- DM issues; some planes still able to fly with whole wings ripped off (I know it was possible for a short period of time but in the sim you can fly longer....I know in modern era there were planes with very small wings which could fly, but they were constructed to fly like that....WW1 wingless plane couldnt for sure...)
- DOT system....well il2 view system isnt much better but it is better than in ROF...in ROF you need to apply max zoom to see planes at greater distances; if you unzoom they disappear....like we have a binoculars sticked onto our faces...and usually its painful to use super zoom all the time to scan the skies)

All in all its a great sim (regarding feeling in flight) but have some serious optimisation issues + ackward viewing system).....

[Kwiatek]

Good points Tvrdi.

The worst things for me are:
- poor optimisation expecially for online playings ( in large map servers i got lags and low fps even in any other game i dont have problems)
- some DM issuses as you describe
- even if Flight Model Engine and immersion from flying is very good and high still there are some strange things - most German planes dont want to stall ( accelerated stall) and was too easy to fly ( fly more like kites not real planes) and very strange/unreslistic method to get out of spins in most planes

BTW you said you was betatester so its mean you are not now? whats up?

[Coen020]

guys, not trying to be rude here, but i already have the game since like 2 moths or so, someone digged this thread up, and now it's quite useless.

Maybe it should be closed or something?

Be that as it may, i think it's a great game, but i really am missing some sort of campaign, and i'm just hinging back to il-2. It's simply just better.