Orcs on the March - high score/highlights/combat statistics

[Zechnophobe]

Well, I have finished. No loss, impossible, mage. Day 18. 93 Quests completed.

Hardest fight in the game was definitely Scrounger. Partially due to Blood Shamans simply casting one of their abilities even when feared... which is some weird bug I've never seen before. Ultimately Magic Shackles did her in. It was surprising how hard to kill her Trackers were if they could get their summon out.

Also, I feel like the Battle with Baal was ALSO bugged. I recall before when he summoned troops, he would always fill the ring directly adjacent to him with troops. In my fight, there were noticeable gaps that let me keep hitting him. It was really weird.

I used the Phoenix trick to keep hitting him at 2x speed, and took him down decently fast using the solo stack of Bone Dragons (35). Got close when one of his Archdemon stacks was finally large enough to Halve my stack, had to throw a timeback into the mix there to survive. Baal finally died to a poison skull .



18 Days was clearly worse than I could have done. I didn't really truly think about a fast run until about day 11, and even then made obvious mistakes (Gah, you have to go back to Elon after going to Reha .)

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

Well, I have finished. No loss, impossible, mage. Day 18. 93 Quests completed.

Hardest fight in the game was definitely Scrounger. Partially due to Blood Shamans simply casting one of their abilities even when feared... which is some weird bug I've never seen before. Ultimately Magic Shackles did her in. It was surprising how hard to kill her Trackers were if they could get their summon out.

Also, I feel like the Battle with Baal was ALSO bugged. I recall before when he summoned troops, he would always fill the ring directly adjacent to him with troops. In my fight, there were noticeable gaps that let me keep hitting him. It was really weird.

I used the Phoenix trick to keep hitting him at 2x speed, and took him down decently fast using the solo stack of Bone Dragons (35). Got close when one of his Archdemon stacks was finally large enough to Halve my stack, had to throw a timeback into the mix there to survive. Baal finally died to a poison skull .



18 Days was clearly worse than I could have done. I didn't really truly think about a fast run until about day 11, and even then made obvious mistakes (Gah, you have to go back to Elon after going to Reha .)

Congrats!

Interesting. I guess you whittled down her army enough to make magic shackles usable?

Ah, good ol fear. I remember using it a lot when I first played this game, but I have not used it since. With such high intellect, it was probably worth considering to use.

I never used Slow either, but I found it indispensible in my later runs.

I have very little experience in fighting Baal before Crossworlds. I think the reason for his "partial ring summon" is if you have your units adjacent to him, before the summoning, he can't summon there?

Yeah, Ancient Phoenix is great at double hitting, but they tend to do so little damage against Baal himself due to fire damage. I'm surprised you didn't go for Dragon of Chaos?

Ahhh... good ol Poison Skull, bane of all demons.

I really hate the "fast route". You have to do really funky things to succeed. In a weird way it is a good challenge, but it sometimes diminishes the fun. I had to restart to some of my older "check point" saved games because I would forget to talk to some people to clear the quest list.

[Zechnophobe]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

Congrats!

Interesting. I guess you whittled down her army enough to make magic shackles usable?

Ah, good ol fear. I remember using it a lot when I first played this game, but I have not used it since. With such high intellect, it was probably worth considering to use.

I never used Slow either, but I found it indispensible in my later runs.

I have very little experience in fighting Baal before Crossworlds. I think the reason for his "partial ring summon" is if you have your units adjacent to him, before the summoning, he can't summon there?

Yeah, Ancient Phoenix is great at double hitting, but they tend to do so little damage against Baal himself due to fire damage. I'm surprised you didn't go for Dragon of Chaos?

Ahhh... good ol Poison Skull, bane of all demons.

I really hate the "fast route". You have to do really funky things to succeed. In a weird way it is a good challenge, but it sometimes diminishes the fun. I had to restart to some of my older "check point" saved games because I would forget to talk to some people to clear the quest list.

I didn't use the ancient phoenix to have it attack, I used it to allow me to fit of energy my bone dragons each turn. You keep the Ancient Phoenix DEAD so it can't be removed from play, and on each of its turns (where you would have the chance to resurrect it) you instead just cast fit of energy to let the bonies do even more poison.

Only one stack of Scrounger's army was greater than 60k leadership (or was level 5 anyway) so the magic shackles worked on the first turn. The 66k worth of Furious goblins were knocked under 60k by ball lightning. Note that I used a Flaming Eyes scroll to get 30k leadership for the fight, making my shackles particularly potent. I realized that I had 25k leadership for the fight base, and that 20% more would get me to 30k, and that as a mage I get 2x Leadership for shackles, so I used the scroll even though I didn't really have more army to put in.

It was super effective ;P.

[Zechnophobe]

By the way, I note I DID get all 93 quests. I noticed something during the run through. If you talk to Arianna after defeating the White Kraken, you can get her to change her inventory. I'm wondering if it is like an unmarked quest, and that is giving you credit?

I will double check when I get home and count my completed quests for me penultimate save just to make sure.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

I didn't use the ancient phoenix to have it attack, I used it to allow me to fit of energy my bone dragons each turn. You keep the Ancient Phoenix DEAD so it can't be removed from play, and on each of its turns (where you would have the chance to resurrect it) you instead just cast fit of energy to let the bonies do even more poison.

Only one stack of Scrounger's army was greater than 60k leadership (or was level 5 anyway) so the magic shackles worked on the first turn. The 66k worth of Furious goblins were knocked under 60k by ball lightning. Note that I used a Flaming Eyes scroll to get 30k leadership for the fight, making my shackles particularly potent. I realized that I had 25k leadership for the fight base, and that 20% more would get me to 30k, and that as a mage I get 2x Leadership for shackles, so I used the scroll even though I didn't really have more army to put in.

It was super effective ;P.

I always figured there was some way to abuse that "dead Phoenix" thing. I also have contemplated on abusing Fit of Energy for my Shrek army.

Ah yes, Flaming eyes can definitely be helpful there, good thinking!

Yes, the furious goblins are very annoying to deal with, especially since I usually roll with level 5s.

Interesting. I think I did do Arianna's White Kraken thing in all of my games though, and I still only got 92 in one of my games.

[No Casualties]

lvl 61, all medals, pet dragon lvl 60, over 8.3 mil gold.

[No Casualties]

and Spells screenshot

[Zechnophobe]

Well, apparently winning the game like 12 times isn't enough. I've decided to do a 'fast' no loss run through, going the minimum number of trips to each island.

I know some people have figured out the 'best' way of doing it, but I wanted to try and figure it out by myself. Here's my route:

Debir (Clean, steal scrolls in Eventus)
Scarlet (Clean, quest for Rusty
Bolo (Clean completely)
Rusty (Clean, maybe leave zag-zag. Get password for Scarlet, have 50-50-50)
Verona(As many quests as possible)
Montero (Get wings?)
Dersu (glasses for Bobur, bagourti in love, kill uzala)
Tekron (CLEAN COMPLETELY, including abyss!)
Umkas (Clean completely... what if we need wings? Might need wings of Necro call before this!)
Reha (pillage, get documents for Elon)
Nameless (At the very least clean dungeon, and get all quests for elsewhere)
Uzala(Defeat Ruler, get all pearls, clean)
Elon (Rescue Telion and kill Shenobi, buy demon skin, Astrology, hunchback cure)
Rusty (Deliver cure, zag-zag if not)
Scarlet (Open cave, time back scroll, get chest
Debir (Finish tower of eventus, return that one chick)
Verona (Deliver papers to degosh, get astrology stuff, wings if not already, clean anything else missed, nameless quest, Demenion)
Dersu(drop off shenobi, kill frog, deliver glasses)
Uzala(Turn in quest)
Shattera(get soul for Lew Klisan, kill Scrounger, clean)
Elon(Deliver soul, kill Gremlion)
Reha (Clean, kill K'tahu)
Verona(finish)

So far so good, halfway through Scarlet. I was hoping to do the first Eventus fight to see what scrolls they had on level two, but it just wasn't reasonable.

The new shop on Debir sold two Engineers, so I gladly purchased them (area blind is rather good that early in the game ). Debir had the ancient amulet... but good luck getting 50k before leaving the island! DID dig up Fear early on, so that's nice. Also did a quikc test 'run' to Rusty Anchor and found the shop there selling Green Dragons, so I don't need to stress out about getting the pirates/robbers before getting there. (though I may anyway since that cave is loot city, and the EGD is free).

Anyone have luck defeating the Kraken before leaving the second island? I think it may be doable, but not sure.

I don't normally use the save game scanner, but I'm considering it just to make sure there is a timeback scroll (or two !). Not being able to finish that quest sounds infuriating.