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IL-2 Sturmovik The famous combat flight simulator.

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Old 02-08-2011, 02:38 AM
Oleg Maddox Oleg Maddox is offline
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What sort of outside noises? Other aircraft? Can you point to the memoirs and formulas? I would like to see the arguments that you can hear much that goes on outside the cockpit.
I have modern video record where the sound of P-39 we may hear from another fighter from which this record was done. And it was done with the professional equipment but not with the light, small and simple camcoder that can record nothing really (most records on youtube are done exactly by camcoders with internal mics).... or by other words don't selectively working like it is with the system of Human ears + brain...

Another my own experinece in yak-52 flying near the Yak-18T... I was able to hear and to define the directions of outside flying plane flying some 30 menters near my plane... And I was in a helment that is very similar to WWII time...

Also, please tell me, can the bullet hit to the wing of the aircratf hear the pilot? If you will say me can, then I will put here the real measurement of the sound from the hit of bullet to the wing and the sound of fighter propeller (not the engine even!) on a distance of the 50 meters in decibels for comparison. Then you will tell me who is right

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Old 02-08-2011, 08:40 AM
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What sort of outside noises? Other aircraft? Can you point to the memoirs and formulas? I would like to see the arguments that you can hear much that goes on outside the cockpit.
I realize Oleg himself already answered this question very thoroughly... but I can't resist.

I have personally heard other aircraft passing by while I was in the air. This was in a small single-engine plane, wearing noise-cancellation headphones, and the other planes were two radial-engined warbirds passing by in formation about 100 yards away. And I'm a little hard of hearing too.

You're correct that you can't hear much detail about those other planes no matter how close they get, but it's certainly possible to hear if somebody's above and to the left, for example.
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:59 AM
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What sort of outside noises? Other aircraft? Can you point to the memoirs and formulas? I would like to see the arguments that you can hear much that goes on outside the cockpit.
I can give you one from personal experience. I was in a Lake Amphibian (a very noisy plane) with some excellent David Clarks (headsets) on and we had an F-18 on a low-level training route cross in front of us at the same altitude at a distance of half a mile. I heard him at the same time I saw him and it was loud. That said, that's the only time in 4,000 hours of flying that I heard something outside the airplane while airborne, but then I never made any gun runs on Heinkels and passing within fifty feet of them.

So yes, it's possible to hear things outside a plane in flight - but only really loud things.

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Old 02-04-2011, 06:03 PM
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Going back to the video, everyone knows you can go full screen and do 720p? You can actually see the game pretty well there.

(sorry about the cackle, gawd!)

The reason we made the crappy handheld video is simple. All we had was screenshots, and we wanted to give you a little more. Think of it as a guy going on a date with a wrinkled box of chocolates, only to hesitate at the door and rip out a few flowers out of the rosebush in the driveway.
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Going back to the video, everyone knows you can go full screen and do 720p? You can actually see the game pretty well there.

(sorry about the cackle, gawd!)

The reason we made the crappy handheld video is simple. All we had was screenshots, and we wanted to give you a little more. Think of it as a guy going on a date with a wrinkled box of chocolates, only to hesitate at the door and rip out a few flowers out of the rosebush in the driveway.
Cool...BUT if you have to do it again...pls just make the cam guy point at the screen from about a foot away and not move...and turn the sound on
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