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Old 02-03-2011, 01:21 PM
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Try this:
1) Go to Pilot and create new pilot.
2) Then go to Controls and, find the HOTAS section and try to assign the problematic throttle to any of the controls (Flaps or Power for example).
3) Report here what is displayed for the problematic throttle (X-Axis, Y-Axis, U- Axis, or something else, or nothing at all)
4) You can also try to assign the problematic throttle to non-analog control, like for example Pause Game in TIME COMPRESSION section. See how Il2 recognizes this control.
I have already use the "problematic" throttle with other axis and the exact same result. The computer displays it with z slider axis, but as I stated before when in use it only record two positions. 0% all the way to the top and it changes to 50% once you reach the top. It does work correctly with fsx, rof and a tool called multithrottle 4.0 that uses devicelink to communicate the joy with il2 (that I can only use with the xp rig)

I try with Joycntrl and the same result. I have not use it with an analogue key yet but I will try tonight and report.

Next week I am expecting to receive the warthog and I will check with it as well.

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the problem is in your joystick, not in the game, desintall drivers, clean everithing (delete manually any folder or file after desintall the driver) and reinstall.
Not at all. I had already three saitek x65f in three different computers and the same problem with the three of them. One xp, another vista and the third with windows 7. I have reinstalled the software of the joy (and even deleted registry entry) like 50 times (no joking) because another different problem I had with one of the joys and the problem persisted all of the time. Sturreaktor, there is no problem with the joy or with the joy software. Do you have a x65f? Does it work right on yours?

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Old 02-03-2011, 03:04 PM
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many saiteks x52s have that problem, try only installing the cd drivers
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:48 PM
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many saiteks x52s have that problem, try only installing the cd drivers
As I explained above I have use different drivers, even one beta driver still under development. All with the same result. x65f does not communicate the right throttle with il2 right.
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:55 PM
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Tested with keys. It does not recognise it as a key.
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:47 PM
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Tested with keys. It does not recognise it as a key.
OK. Do you use any Saitek joystick profile when playing Il2? Check that this throttle is not altered to act as a switch there.

You can also check ingame joystick settings (Hardware Setup -> Input). Look for something unusual, like sensitivity, filtering or dead band settings.
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:02 AM
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OK. Do you use any Saitek joystick profile when playing Il2? Check that this throttle is not altered to act as a switch there.

You can also check ingame joystick settings (Hardware Setup -> Input). Look for something unusual, like sensitivity, filtering or dead band settings.
If you try to rule out fault on my side you can now. This issue has been bugging me for quite long time: I tried (obviously) with and without profiles,I check for unusual things in all the three saitek I had and in the three installs.

As I stated before this problem has been tested with three different joys in three different computes with three different specs. I have been flying Il2 since the original game and I also have joycntrl and I can guarantee you this problem has nothing to do with joy/computer specs but with the way il2 communicates with this particular joystick. Hey guys, can anyone back me up here? Does anyone else own an x65f that proves me right or wrong?
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:52 AM
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If you try to rule out fault on my side you can now. This issue has been bugging me for quite long time: I tried (obviously) with and without profiles,I check for unusual things in all the three saitek I had and in the three installs.

As I stated before this problem has been tested with three different joys in three different computes with three different specs. I have been flying Il2 since the original game and I also have joycntrl and I can guarantee you this problem has nothing to do with joy/computer specs but with the way il2 communicates with this particular joystick. Hey guys, can anyone back me up here? Does anyone else own an x65f that proves me right or wrong?
How many axes are there on this device?
Primary control has 3 (it's a twist joystick, right?)
2 throttle sliders.
Probably at least 2 rotaries
Is there a small mouse/joystick there too? That adds 2 more axes.

This means you have 9 axes on one device and the limit on number of axes per device is 8.

Can you confirm that you have more than 8 axes? Go to Il2 Controls settings and just assign one control after another to Flaps or something. Write down how Il2 recognizes each axis (also write down Joystick ID if there is any shown). Post here the results.

Is it possible to turn off some of the axes in driver settings or change their behavior? For example change the small joystick/mouse to 4-way hat switch, if possible.

I've seen videos of people using X65 in Il-2, but I can't tell if they used separate throttle controls or not.
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Old 02-07-2011, 06:35 AM
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Well, I've asked this before - but if there is a way to add a conf.ini option to disable TrackIR while in external view? It get's really weird controlling the external view with TrackIR for me at least. Most other sims have it this way as default... And yes - a lot of us enjoy to fly with external views enabled.

This should be rather easy I guess?

Edit as martinstripes is correct regarding his comments and my request above may sound more like a demand than a request Thanks for all your hard work! I have said it before and will say it again!

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Old 02-07-2011, 07:56 AM
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When arrives the patch 4.101?
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:46 AM
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Sorry to be a little off topic but...

I am just astounded by how rude and ungrateful some people can be. First of all, this is a game, that you play for 'fun'. And secondly, the amount of time and effort TD have poured into this, I for one am very grateful for every single adjustment they make. You only have to take a look at the Silent Hunter series to see just how 'different' things can be when it comes to patches and support!

For those with the red mist and steam coming out their ears, maybe a few deep breaths and a healthy dose of real life is in order.
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