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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-29-2011, 11:56 PM
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I too would prefer the historically correct pits, as far as they exist as such. But I don't see how this makes the difference between "arcade" and "realistic". Same for the people who can live with such inaccuracies.

We've had some people pointing out inaccuracies in the past, and many of them have already been fixed. With 2 months before release this one certainly won't though.
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Old 01-30-2011, 12:23 AM
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-The best way to contact Oleg is when he is certain to be home...say at 2 o'clock in the morning.
-A personal visit will make a much better impression.
-Make sure you explain very carefully that his Spitfire model is wrong, wrong, wrong, and that you certainly have a great understanding of his misgivings.
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Old 01-30-2011, 05:24 AM
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The only time anyone official appears to read, or comment on, anything in these forums is if you place a post in the first three pages of a Friday update thread.

If you put something relevant there (hopefully the next update - videos, apparently - will feature a Spit cockpit) you can be pretty sure Ilya or Oleg will read it, even if you don't get any response.

Good luck.

PS. Oleg's inbox appears to be perpetually full but you could try PM'ing Luthier.
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Old 01-31-2011, 04:36 AM
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The difference seem substantial. Of course its possible the Spitfire cockpit in the updates is not actually the layout of the Mk I we will see in the final release version.

Do remember many of the posters that "do not care about the cockpit" do not care because they will be flying online in wonder women mode with cockpit off anyway.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:11 PM
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A picture speaks a thousand words. With some posters saying whats all the fuss over one gauge or switch. Here is the cockpit as seen on the Collectors edition site http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubiemea/en...s-Edition.html , an apparent current image. Now it is said that the sim features a Mk1a, 1b and a ll. If the image is of the 1a or 1b then marked in yellow are the errors. Sometime in the future the team will need to deal with these, they for the moment give us a MkV. If the team has photographed a Mk1 surviving nowadays then these represent the modifications carried out since the Battle of Britain, but I would hope they have not fallen into the trap of thinking what they see now has not changed since 1940. We have no readout for the 48 gal tank, no landing lamp control, no time of trip clock as per 1940, no amps gauge, no dual fuel cock, things that are part of the actual control of the aircraft. If that is , the image is supposed to be a Mk1.

I hope the image allows better understanding of my hopes for a Mk1, and of those others who have expressed a wish to get it right. I realise there are those who dont care what it looks like, quite happy to have grey/green spits attacking 109F's, loving the beautiful artwork, but there are those who want 1940 and the basic stuff accurate. I see the Battle of Britain Cliffs of Dover Collectors box on that site has a non Battle of Britain later war camo and roundels artwork cover by the way, is not the cover of such an item important to get right, perhaps not.

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I see the Battle of Britain Cliffs of Dover Collectors box on that site has a non Battle of Britain later war camo and roundels artwork cover by the way, is not the cover of such an item important to get right, perhaps not.
I totally agree with the rest of your post, BOBC. I'm glad there are people like you and Rodolphe pointing out these small issues (or in the case of the Spit cockpit, rather a large one when they're all put together), even if you do get a lot of flak for doing so. I don't understand that, after all, it's the most constructive kind of criticism that the game will get. Perhaps you should try directly messaging Oleg or luthier?
However, I suspect the cover art is the responsibility of the publisher.
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Old 03-02-2011, 04:48 AM
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Thanks for the Info BOBC.
Lets hope it is tweaked with later patches... In the past the IL2 series have had a good history of providing patches.... not just releasing a game and running. One good thing will come of this...is that the Spit V is already half modeled..
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Old 03-02-2011, 11:12 AM
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A picture speaks a thousand words. With some posters saying whats all the fuss over one gauge or switch. Here is the cockpit as seen on the Collectors edition site http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubiemea/en...s-Edition.html , an apparent current image. Now it is said that the sim features a Mk1a, 1b and a ll. If the image is of the 1a or 1b then marked in yellow are the errors. Sometime in the future the team will need to deal with these, they for the moment give us a MkV. If the team has photographed a Mk1 surviving nowadays then these represent the modifications carried out since the Battle of Britain, but I would hope they have not fallen into the trap of thinking what they see now has not changed since 1940. We have no readout for the 48 gal tank, no landing lamp control, no time of trip clock as per 1940, no amps gauge, no dual fuel cock, things that are part of the actual control of the aircraft. If that is , the image is supposed to be a Mk1.

I hope the image allows better understanding of my hopes for a Mk1, and of those others who have expressed a wish to get it right. I realise there are those who dont care what it looks like, quite happy to have grey/green spits attacking 109F's, loving the beautiful artwork, but there are those who want 1940 and the basic stuff accurate. I see the Battle of Britain Cliffs of Dover Collectors box on that site has a non Battle of Britain later war camo and roundels artwork cover by the way, is not the cover of such an item important to get right, perhaps not.

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Considering the lengthy threads crated by u i assume u are 100% sure its infact a Mk1 cockpit we are looking at and not a MkII...right?


Thats kind of the first things that needs to be established, dont u think? If for no other reason than to save u a hell of alot of work.


BTW, to highlight the electrical cord from the gunsight just to have more yellow=misstake, is a bit.....anal if u ask me. Assuming that all the cords where the exact same length and made the exact same loop on all the spits produced is putting way to much trust on the production line imo (especially after X amount of field repairs etc.Im referring to how the referance pics used to create the 3D model looked)

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Old 03-02-2011, 11:19 AM
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I am lucky, I never look at the cockpits, too busy shooting things.
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