Friday 2011-01-28 Dev. update and Discussion

[Coen020]

Different landscape colours

1st: Enland, near London

2nd: France (probably North)

[Kikuchiyo]

Originally Posted by Coen020

Different landscape colours

1st: Enland, near London

2nd: France (probably North)

Good job picking photos for late afternoon early evening, and for ignoring the fact that photos are a poor comparison for the eye's ability to view color. I've said it several times in just the 2 posts I've made go outside and look around. Photos do no justice to color of the real world, and look around at various times of the day. Colors are darker when the sun is low, and brighter when it is high.

At any rate I know most of you will never be appeased by anything, and that is sorrowful. Enjoy the sim, and know that it will never be the same as real life for a multitude of reasons. It will be the best possible product with the technological limitations of today.

Okay I see what you meant. Thank you for the clarification Coen I wasn't going to argue the point much further.

[Coen020]

Originally Posted by Kikuchiyo

Good job picking photos for late afternoon early evening, and for ignoring the fact that photos are a poor comparison for the eye's ability to view color. I've said it several times in just the 2 posts I've made go outside and look around. Photos do no justice to color of the real world, and look around at various times of the day. Colors are darker when the sun is low, and brighter when it is high.

you dont get my point, i actually think the england shot is pretty similar to the hurricane screen.

the french landscape color only differs slight, but that is because its a afternoon shot, like you said. And let me sniff up the Bf110 shot that lurks around here for the afternoon shot.

now compare this one to the French afternoon shot. its almost the same if you look a bit in the distance of the bf110 shot.
(EDIT: it seems more likely that they are both in morning, so yeah.)

[Freycinet]

Oh, yes, we need better updates, just like today's from the Microsoft Flight team. Their first update since December 10 by the way:

http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/

"January 28, 2011 − Play online or offline, the choice is yours.

Greetings to all Flight fans! We would like to welcome you to our January “News from the Team” addition. First off, we hope you like the screen shots. We are happy to be able to share with you another check point in the development process. We are all working hard to bring you a truly exciting experience.

We continue to receive and enjoy all your emails and comments via the Tell Microsoft Flight email alias. Although we cannot reply to each and every one, we do read these and appreciate the comments and suggestions.

One topic that has been voiced is the concern over online game play. We understand some people are worried that featuring Microsoft Flight on Games for Windows – LIVE will require you to always be connected online to play. Not true. Rest assured that you can play offline if you choose. We hope that you will find the connected experience to be more enjoyable and immersive. But to be clear, the choice will be all yours.

Thank you again for following our progress as we pass another waypoint.

The Microsoft Flight Development Team"



Or, as Oleg would have said it:



"You can fly offline, online".



- Then we also get four screenies of about one-tenth the size of Oleg's. Or, well, we get four images of some sort. WE don't really know if they are screenies or whether they are photoshopped or whether they are rendered during half an hour of bit-crunching. As opposed to being told that they are done on an old crappy machine as Luthier tells us about the Il-2:CoD screenies.

And then there is no more interaction with the MS Flight development team at all. We don't even know their names. No forum, no threads, no postings, no replies of any kind anywhere. As opposed to Oleg and Ilya who masochistically dredge their way through endless pages of mindnumbing drivel and interact in a constantly friendly manner.

That won't go on of course, given the total take-over of the 1C update threads by idiots. But it was really nice for as long as it lasted.

Voilà the difference between "real" updates and the usual stuff other developers feed their fans.

[TheGrunch]

Originally Posted by Freycinet

- Then we also get four screenies of about one-tenth the size of Oleg's. Or, well, we get four images of some sort. WE don't really know if they are screenies or whether they are photoshopped or whether they are rendered during half an hour of bit-crunching. As opposed to being told that they are done on an old crappy machine as Luthier tells us about the Il-2:CoD screenies.

Plus, you also have to have Microsoft Silverlight (i.e., lame Flash knock-off made obsolete by HTML5) installed to even view the update. Voila, there's one person (me) who immediately can't be bothered with said update at all.

[Richie]

I think all the people over in simhq should register over here. They complain about things and say this and that is wrong but some of them don't have a clue what's really going on and you have to copy stuff from here and paste over there. I guess they can read this stuff but they can't see the pictures. The pictures are never the less always posted over there but still they seem to have no knowledge of where to look for all of the facts. I mean they should stay registered over in simhq but if they want as much info as possible on this series it just makes common senses to be registered over here too right?

[philip.ed]

As much as I agree with regards to the comments on the colours not being final or down to monitor colour, the colours do look too green to me.
One has to remember that the BoB had a very hot summer, so the green colour will verge more on brown. The picture from LIFE magazine (of the spitfire) demonstrates this well.
Either way, I'm sure the team has got the point by now, so let's just wait for the release. Then we can truly comment.
But definately, I think England should have a burnished look. Maybe in the future such features could be incorporated into the weather model? Who knows
Nice update, and thanks, Oleg, Luhier and co, for doing a sterling job in keeping us updated.

[Coen020]

surely, if it's to much lime for most, nothing a patch wont fix? or atleast a mod or something from some of the talented people lurking between us?

sorry, 'Lurking' is my word for today.

[jcenzano]

Originally Posted by Coen020

Different landscape colours

1st: Enland, near London

2nd: France (probably North)

and what makes you thing those are the real colors??

Colors in pictures depend on several things such as exposure, lense type and fliters used, film/sensor used, and so on...

So just one picture is not relevant at all. Download 50 different pisc and you will see 50 different tones... none of them yet to be true.

Plus your monitor calibration...

[Foo'bar]

Originally Posted by jcenzano

and what makes you thing those are the real colors??

Colors in pictures depend on several things such as exposure, lense type and fliters used, film/sensor used, and so on...

So just one picture is not relevant at all. Download 50 different pisc and you will see 50 different tones... none of them yet to be true.

Plus your monitor calibration...

Right. We don't even know at witch season the pictures were taken. For me some of the brownish fields look like late summer when it is clear to have darker green tones.