I Want my 4.09 Spit FM's back.........

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Banks

Well ...

Spitfire 8 machine guns to fire vs. Me 109 2 machine guns to fire ... nearly 4 times of guns!

I'm not counting the MG FF, 'cause the 55 sec. of fire only applies to the machine guns, not the canons.

Quite right. This was the first thing that glared at me from the way this documentary was presented when I saw the first broadcast.
The 109 has to hold a 'plane in it's sights 4 times as long to get same weight of projectiles on target, compared to Hurris and Spits, using machine guns alone.
As it happens 55 secs is near enough four times 14.7secs. Roughly the same rate of fire.
The sensible view of this is that the 109 pilots had loads of time to sight the target with their m/g's, then let go with a short burst of cannon.

[David603]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

The sensible view of this is that the 109 pilots had loads of time to sight the target with their m/g's, then let go with a short burst of cannon.

Well, that's a good explaination for Il2, but the RL Bf-109E had all the guns linked to the same trigger

Separate MG and Cannon triggers didn't come until the Bf-109F.

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by David603

Well, that's a good explaination for Il2, but the RL Bf-109E had all the guns linked to the same trigger

Separate MG and Cannon triggers didn't come until the Bf-109F.

That is just plain wrong.

http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/arc...chusswaffe.pdf

The E-1/3 detailed here feature already the seperate triggers for cowl MGs (Abzughebel / A-Knopf) and wing MGs/cannons (B-Knopf).

[David603]

Originally Posted by Zorin

That is just plain wrong.

http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/arc...chusswaffe.pdf

The E-1/3 detailed here feature already the seperate triggers for cowl MGs (Abzughebel / A-Knopf) and wing MGs/cannons (B-Knopf).

Ahh

Read it in a book a while back (think it was by William Green, but not 100% sure on that). Probably should have checked other sources first

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by David603

Ahh

Read it in a book a while back (think it was by William Green, but not 100% sure on that). Probably should have checked other sources first

May have been a bit harsh with my choice of words, so I am glad you took it in a sporting manner. It is just that I don't like to see others being corrected without actual presentation of proof.