Bomber hopes for COD

[Flying Pencil]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

i fly almost only bombers online in IL2 nowadays.
Trying to fullfill the missiontask that is given in scripted Dogfightservers (mainly on the WoP servers) and COOP missions (COOP online wars).

im also looking forward to the bomberflying in CoD ! one of the best 'updates' (video from the Moskau game show) the last month was the in cockpit video of a Ju88 with Crewmembers sitting beside , awsome !

additional hopes are:
- a more detailed arming screen. where you can select the armament stations and not only have a given kind of armament options.
and that the factor "max start weight" comes to count if you are selecting the bombload and fuel !! always an important factor for bombers. As Examble, a Do17Z (sure only AI in CoD) had with 1to of bombs only a combar range of less than 400km ! Equipting the forward bombbay with a fuel tank the range was over 1000km but only 500kg of bombs were possible.

- i wish that the bombercrew can select the bombdelays and order of bombrelease

- i hope that a RAF bomber that can carry more than ~1000lb (the Blenheim Mk.IV) will be available as soon as possible. My favorites for that would be the Wellington (even more as it is as AI in the release version) or the Hampden (my personal favorite, because it was a 'pilots' plane like the Ju88 ).

i can only say, bring on the bombers

Hear! Hear!

While I can wait for an update for more bombers (will be a lot of fun just exploring what it will have), I will insist a patch with full control of all the bombers in BoB.

(Oh, must have Loadout control too.)

Ju88 (seems like player control in CoD)
He111
Do17z (and Do215)
Blen I and IV
Wellington
and that Italian bomber (cant recall name).

(Stuka of course)

Would like to see the 109E-7 as well, with a single 50kg bomb.


BTW JG53Frankyboy, you did your homework, GJ!

[csThor]

Not that I am a big fan of them iron trucks, but there are a few things I'd love to see outside of systems modelling.

1.) area targets
2.) visibility
3.) AI that can actually detect the target zone without me having to guide it to it and serve it on a silver platter
4.) no more "target these specific trucks on this road" but "bomb enemy supply lines at XYZ"



EDIT: Damn, I missed that. Actually loadouts were ordered for combat missions. I'd rather not have a "toolbox" to fiddle with. This results in too much unhistorical BS IMO.

[JG52Uther]

Area targets are very important IMO.
And +1 on the Do17z,I would buy that plane on its own if it was available to fly!

[Flying Pencil]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Area targets are very important IMO.
And +1 on the Do17z,I would buy that plane on its own if it was available to fly!

I actually own a few pieces of Do-17's

2 data plates and fuel gage, all marked with "Do-17"

[JG53Frankyboy]

yep , area targets would be important !

in IL2 you have to hide trucks in the houses........................
in BoB there should be a "ground target" circle (or better area selector of any shape) with a wincondition of how many bombs , in numbers or total weight (as best selectable !), have hit this area !!

would make the live of the missiondesigner so much easier

[Meusli]

Originally Posted by Flying Pencil

I actually own a few pieces of Do-17's

2 data plates and fuel gage, all marked with "Do-17"

So jealous. How did your get these mate as I would love a bit of memorabilia like that.

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by csThor

EDIT: Damn, I missed that. Actually loadouts were ordered for combat missions. I'd rather not have a "toolbox" to fiddle with. This results in too much unhistorical BS IMO.

sure, the host/missiondesinger should have the ability to restrict the availability of the loadouts.
but in general i hope for a more detailed armament screen than in IL2.

as examples, if you want carry 4xSC500 in your Ju88, you have to sacrifice some of your range/fuel
or if you want all 28 of your SC50 too, because its 'only' 1400kg total bombload but you have no room for the so important fueltank (1220l !) in the front bombbay

[Zorin]

If you want to carry 4x SC500 you have two options.

Rüstzustand A

1220l fuel in wing tanks + 4x SC500

Take-off weight: 12590kg

Rüstzustand B

2120l fuel in wing tanks and forward bomb bay tank + 4x SC500

Take-off weight: 13510kg

With regards to the 28x SC50.

Rüstzustand A allowed for 2620l of fuel and 28x SC50 with the use of the two 700l drop tanks.

So there is no real trade off you have to make as the Ju88 was so versatile in its outfittings.

On a sidenote, the max loadout would be 2900kg of bombs (28x SC50 + 6x 250kg) for Rüstzustand A. Granted, only on a paved runway but still pretty impressive and the range attainable with this load would have been easily sufficient for raids on targets in continental Europe during 1939/40.

[JG53Frankyboy]

and the max start weight of the Ju88A-1 (the version we will get in CoD) was 12.300kg AFAIK .

anyway, very few missions, at least online, will require a huge fuelload, where a distance of 100km is considered as almost the distance earth to moon
so, the focus of the player will most propably be the bombload

[Geronimo989]

I also hope flying bombers will be more fun than in IL-2 because there will be clickable cockpits, and more stuff to do in regular flight from A to B in general (like in MS flight simulator).
In IL-2 it is just a matter of turning on engines, ramming throttle to 100%, pointing the plane to point B, throttle to 20% before the airfield, throttle to 0% when touching it, turning off engines. I am not saying there isnt anything else to do beside this, but it is all optional.
Its like fighters are simulated on a much greater level, and thats what I hope to be changed in CoD.