The new bomb fuzing needs to be an option.

[Bussard_1]

"How do you know how it was in RL? Where you there? I doubt anyone here on this forum was there in RL and that 98% of the people talking about the bomb arming bit have been as close to the stuff as a picture in a book.

Did you check out the pdf-file on German bombs? Did you read the bit where bombs could be set to a arming time of 0.08sec?
Up to now no documention has been presented that bombing as implied in 4.10 was the the rule, and that for all sides reguardless of country.
And no just because it is harder does not automatically mean it is more "real"."

2% of all people talking about this stuff are in Team Daidilos, and have read the spec and dropped stuff that blows up IRL.

If IRL was easy we would all be strapped to a fighter.

Think you've got the right stuff? Enlist.

Sit down, please.

These TD guys are not just pushing agendas and dragging stuff out of their back passages.

You insult their professionalism if you believe other wise.

This kind off sand pit squabble is bloody tiresome.

Stop stealing my oxygen.

Merde!

[robtek]

Originally Posted by Bussard_1

.......Did you check out the pdf-file on German bombs? Did you read the bit where bombs could be set to a arming time of 0.08sec?.....

That is definitively wrong!!!
The delay could be set to 0.08 s. (MV).
The armingt time still was between 0.9 and 1.5 s.

[JtD]

Originally Posted by robtek

That is definitively wrong!!!
The delay could be set to 0.08 s. (MV).
The armingt time still was between 0.9 and 1.5 s.

Exactly - and that would be the minimum! This setting also came with a fixed 14 seconds of bomb delay.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by JtD

This setting also came with a fixed 14 seconds of bomb delay.

So? The bomb would penetrate the hull, doesn't even matter if it was 140sec.

Would suck only if you're attacking a moving land convoy.

[JtD]

Originally Posted by swiss

So? The bomb would penetrate the hull, doesn't even matter if it was 140sec.

IT IS NOT about SKIPBOMBING

Leaves me to wonder which bomb and which hull, and also to wonder "so?" what. Never heard a fact before? Make of it what you want, that's what the brain is for.

[Romanator21]

this guy sure looks like he ignored the new bomb fusing completely!

No. The plane is not over the ship, but well past it. I would say that it is at least 300 feet up. Ships are bigger than you think - a common cargo ship like that is probably about 30 meters tall. To ignore the bomb fusing (dropping from less than 30 meters) he would have gone through the rigging.

IT IS NOT about SKIPBOMBING, skipbombig is easy - try tanks.

Post a track in which you're having trouble bombing tanks. I and maybe others can watch it and explain what you're doing wrong. Again, it was never an easy thing to do.

[Fenrir]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

No. The plane is not over the ship, but well past it. I would say that it is at least 300 feet up. Ships are bigger than you think - a common cargo ship like that is probably about 30 meters tall. To ignore the bomb fusing (dropping from less than 30 meters) he would have gone through the rigging.

He did go through the rigging, he also hit the mast on his way through. To quote the same picture captioned in 'Flying Buccaneers; The Illustrated History of Kenney's Fifth Air Force' by Steve Birdsall: "During the fierce convoy attack on March 19, 1944, this A-20 struck the mast of it's victim and crashed into the sea. Coming off the target, Jock Henebry spotted a dye marker and yellow life jacket and the pilot was picked up by a Catalina the next morning after 17 hours in the water."

[swiss]

Originally Posted by JtD

Leaves me to wonder which bomb and which hull, and also to wonder "so?" what. Never heard a fact before? Make of it what you want, that's what the brain is for.

So -> so what. The delay has no influence on your success.
The bomb(I guess SC50's will not work) will penetrate all hulls of civilian ships.

Originally Posted by wiki

Early Liberty ships suffered hull and deck cracks, and a few were lost to such structural defects. During WWII, there were nearly 1,500 instances of significant brittle fractures. Twelve ships, including three of the 2,710 Liberties built, broke in half without warning, including the SS John P. Gaines

For a libertyship the impact alone would be enough to sink it, lol.
Or:

This made them bounce and penetrate their target's hull near the waterline.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/skip_bombing.aspx

If timed right the bomb would skip and penetrate the hull before exploding

http://books.google.ch/books?id=Z6YsNyLd_Q4C p.102, search for "hull"


Whether they could penetrate the side of a cruiser or not, I don't know.

[swiss]

Found some real life data:

Discussing the situation with Major Bill Benn, Kenney suggested the idea of 'skip bombing': dropping a bomb such that it literally skipped off the water like a stone, hitting its target from the side. To do this, the bombs, set with delayed fuzes so the plane would have time to clear the detonation, must be dropped at an extremely (dangerously!) low altitude and at the right speed and from the right distance. The bomber for the job must have enough fire power in the nose to defend itself from enemy flak at such low heights. The man for the job of making it work was Major Bill Benn, so Kenney fired him as his assistant and assigned him to command the 63rd Squadron and undertake the perfection of 'skip bombing'.

Major Benn then gathered together some of the best pilots in the 43rd --1st Lt. James T. Murphy, Capt. Ken McCullar, Lt. Folmer "The Swede" Sogaard, Capt. Ed Scott, Lt. Glenn Lewis-- who set about the task. Many hours of practice taught them that approaching the ship from 2,000 ft., then dropping down to an altitude of 200 to 250 ft. (maintaining the air speed of 200 to 250 m.p.h.) and releasing the bomb --equipped with a 4 to 5 second delay fuze-- 60 to 100 ft. away from the target was the way to do it.2 Thanks to the efforts of these men, the percentage of targets hit increased from less than 1% to 72%

http://www.kensmen.com/skipbombing.html

I just posted this because of the 72%, quite interesting.
Again: I am not complaining about the status quo when it comes to skipbombing in 4.10