Friday 2011-01-21 Dev. update and Discussion

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Trumper

Why is it the fanboys have to criticise anyone that has the audacity to say anything that isn't in agreement with them.
I think it will be good and i will buy it in time but i don't think it is too much to ask to be given more solid information regarding certain aspects which haven't been addressed.
If it can be answered ,then why haven't they? that alone makes people doubt.
Lets be honest it has been a shambles so far, Ubi being announced on the hoof as it was badly leaked and not really being a popular choice.
A change of title announced which went down like a lead balloon ,yes even on this forum,
A poor advertising video preview,hardly a positive start.They need to start putting something of substance together soon to put the doubts to bed and sell to people who are sitting on the sidelines.

People draw comments for negative statements that infer things like "we haven't seen the new clouds so there probably aren't any". So people remind him that they are still debugging them.

You infer that we're going to have to wait until the game is released to see what we're buying. I say they are still working on the final build, and we will probably see a few more complete screenshots and videos in March when the gold copy is off for pressing.

You prefer to be negative, others prefer to be positive, because they know the developers history of supporting his product. Untempered negativity only serves to drive away potential consumers of our genre. We only have one WW2 combat flight sim developer willing to stand by his product for years, so I would prefer to help him than drive him out of business.

[FS~Hawks]

Oleg do you know what type of admin tool we will have in IL_2 COD ?
for the admin's online game play.

[Coen020]

geez people, chill out

even if Cod has some imperfections there is something called a patch which fixes a game and brings it to a new version which people can download.

And i/you/everyone can garantee that there will be patches, not one game ever created was perfect.

[FS~Hawks]

Originally Posted by Coen020

geez people, chill out

even if Cod has some imperfections there is something called a patch which fixes a game and brings it to a new version which people can download.

And i/you/everyone can garantee that there will be patches, not one game ever created was perfect.

+1

[robtek]

And even if all the imagined "faults" were real, it still would be the best ww2 combat simulation ever seen!!!
The whining happens at a niveau no other sim has reached so far.

Originally Posted by robtek

And even if all the imagined "faults" were real, it still would be the best ww2 combat simulation ever seen!!!
The whining happens at a niveau no other sim has reached so far.

Without doubt it will be the best ww2 flight sim, to date Il2 still is. I think people's expectations were raised to high by some of the early interviews that Oleg did, a lot was promised, and many expected the terrain, trees etc to look as good as the 3d models which look stunning. However we still haven't seen any finished 'in game' shots in high res with DX11, whilst this might be done for a reason many including myself begin to wonder why, add this to the fact that luthier as already stated that alot of features have been pulled from the intial release then its fair to say that some spirits may have been dampened slightly after waiting so long for our 'cinematic' flight sim. But you are right it will be the best there is, but probably not as good as we hoped it would be.

[zauii]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Without doubt it will be the best ww2 flight sim, to date Il2 still is. I think people's expectations were raised to high by some of the early interviews that Oleg did, a lot was promised, and many expected the terrain, trees etc to look as good as the 3d models which look stunning. However we still haven't seen any finished 'in game' shots in high res with DX11, whilst this might be done for a reason many including myself begin to wonder why, add this to the fact that luthier as already stated that alot of features have been pulled from the intial release then its fair to say that some spirits may have been dampened slightly after waiting so long for our 'cinematic' flight sim. But you are right it will be the best there is, but probably not as good as we hoped it would be.

I never expected the trees to look as detailed as the 3d models, that is unrealistic and anyone who ever expected that should be slapped in the face, wake up..

That just isnt reasonable from a technical and optimization standpoint, this isnt a first person shooter..

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by zauii

I never expected the trees to look as detailed as the 3d models, that is unrealistic and anyone who ever expected that should be slapped in the face, wake up..

That just isnt reasonable from a technical and optimization standpoint, this isnt a first person shooter..

dont sell it short, oleg's own tree's 6 - 9 months ago looked very close to the real deal, good enough to be a major leap forward in the direction he intended (just go back and look at some of his late screenshots on that build)

the problem is that "at the point where the rubber meets the road" (pc demand versus pc realistic performance), his own creation ended up to demanding for mr-average's pc in consumer land in late 2010. it is at that point oleg replaced them with the uglier speed-tree's we have now, and it completely changed the look at low altitude or on the ground (but gave him the performance improvement he needed, so it served its purpose). this was an interim compromise he had to make, and i am confident that as BoB/SoW gets refined and improved over the years we will get the better ground cover back (maybe even in one of the free updates in 6 - 12 months time)

as you already seem to understand, the most important issue right now is that the core of the new game engine is present and functioning well, so it can be rapidly expanded on once they have further time to work on it after release (and pc hardware improves over the years), AND that they can get it "out the door" into eager consumer hands for a fanbase that has been waiting a long time. in that sense it is good a company like ubi which is only $ oriented helped to push a final date and compromise (do most of us here really want to wait another 2 yrs to get our hands on it ? i suspect not )

tree-uk on the other hand will perpetually whine and moan, its simply what he is, and he has no other purpose in being here. dont expect a rational informed perspective from him, it is not his intention or purpose.

[Fltlt_HardBall]

Fantastic shots, Oleg. It's truly a work of art!

However, the second screen shot seems to show the engine gauges of the BF-110 on the outer side of the engine cowling. That can't be right. Or is that cluster of three circular objects something else?

[JG52Uther]

You should both be banned IMO.Turn on the TV and see what happened in Moscow a few minutes ago,while you spit at each other.