the P47 "the Unbreakable"no more

[FC99]

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

Okay, so the P-47 was renowned as being a real tough bird. I posted this on the ubi forums in 2008 and if you give it the chance and download the audio file, you will here Art Fiedler of the 325th, who flew P-47's and P-51's (He was an Ace in the 51) talking about the problems that pilots encountered in the P-47 and also the fact that he never once saw a wing break of a P-51 except when an undercarriage malfunctioned.

He never saw that because pilots were not stupid enough to kill themselves for nothing. Luckily, USA planes are well documented and lot of these documents are available. When we were making G Limits model we used USA planes to calibrate the model.

If we are talking about P-51 this is snippet of what Air Technical Service Command has to say about it.

In order to reduce the possibility of structural failures of the wings on P-51D,P-51K, F-6D and F-6K, two commonly held misconceptions regarding fighter type aircraft must be corrected. These are:
a) The belief that fighter airplanes are designed to such high load factors ("G's")that they are practically indestructible by any readily applied air load.

b) That since the possible loading conditions are relatively few, that unbalance resulting in instability is impossible.

FC

[Mysticpuma]

Originally Posted by FC99

He never saw that because pilots were not stupid enough to kill themselves for nothing. Luckily, USA planes are well documented and lot of these documents are available. When we were making G Limits model we used USA planes to calibrate the model.

If we are talking about P-51 this is snippet of what Air Technical Service Command has to say about it.


FC

He flew 67 Missions and was involved in multiple combat fights with the enemy, as-were his other friends (Barrie Davis, Jack Sherbourne, Frank Mertely). The only time they ever saw a wing snap was a pilot who was carrying bombs in a P-51 (then a new tactic) in a dive and as he pulled out, the undercarriage on the right-wing 'fell-out', which soon became fixed. This put the structural integrity of the wing into a failure and the wing tore off.

I am sure there were possible occasions that a p-51 would or could lose a wing, but this was the only time any pilot of the 325th recalled seeing it happen. It was never documented in the P-47's flown by the group other than from enemy action.

I however do trust your information, mine is from pilots who flew and knew how to fly them

Cheers, MP

[FC99]

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

I however do trust your information, mine is from pilots who flew and knew how to fly them

And what do you think how Air Technical Service Command formed its opinion and issued Technical Order to all units?

Simple fact is that if you fly the plane within its limits nothing wrong will happen, obviously Art Fiedler and his friends flew the plane the way it was supposed to be flown and the same apply to the game. You will not damage your plane unless you exceed the limits but that doesn't mean that it is impossible to destroy the plane if you mishandle it.

Here are some limits for P-47

[DuxCorvan]

JtD already said:

*option switch*

But, of course, that won't please the "I-master-full-real" armchair-macho crowd.

[robtek]

Well, some play a game and some want a simulation, no reason to downsize one group.
But, as the servers compete for users, if its a option, it might get watered down to suit the most.
Not what i want, the watering down.