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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-21-2011, 05:11 PM
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Does not have to be hard.
I know one game that used OpenAL for Mac port, and DX for WIndows.
Yeah, and if it was an actual native port and not just a release of the PC version with a wrapper like Cider, how many years after the original game was released did it come out?
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Old 01-21-2011, 05:16 PM
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What's the point of developing for MacOS when you can dualboot a Mac with Windows 7? LOL!
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Old 01-21-2011, 05:22 PM
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What's the point of developing for MacOS when you can dualboot a Linux distribution with Windows 7? LOL!
Fixed that for you.
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Old 01-21-2011, 05:28 PM
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Fixed that for you.
Whatever, Linux, Windows, MacOS are just the OS, all the hardware is PC. The Macs are overpriced, overdesigned and underspeced PC's that's all they are At least before they had their own unique hardware but not so anymore.
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The Macs are overpriced, overdesigned and underspeced PC's that's all they are
Definitely. It's weird they use underspecced graphics cards with some of the video memory removed and things like that. Seems utterly pointless. And the amount they charge for upgrades if you decided to add stuff to your custom Mac from their store is about three times what the component is worth, for some reason. Arghhh, Apple. What an awful company.
As to MacOS, why pay for just another flavour of Unix?

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If I was the head of 1C or any other games company, I wouldn't waste a single line of code on any apple product. Never.
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Definitely. It's weird they use underspecced graphics cards with some of the video memory removed and things like that. Seems utterly pointless. And the amount they charge for upgrades if you decided to add stuff to your custom Mac from their store is about three times what the component is worth, for some reason. Arghhh, Apple. What an awful company.
As to MacOS, why pay for just another flavour of Unix?
They do it from a purely greed standpoint. They know most mac users are idiots and dont require high performance hardware so they strip it down to bare minimum and leave the price at a premium. ANd you get maximum profits by ripping of your loyal sheeple.
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Yeah, and if it was an actual native port and not just a release of the PC version with a wrapper like Cider, how many years after the original game was released did it come out?
Exactly 1 year later.

They originally tried Linux, but that one did not take at all.
So the took the same source code and did a compile for Mac OS X, that took off, and have had enough customers they kept support Mac for 9 years.

Mac OS X = Unix = Linux = HP (that is more then 90% the same)
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Exactly 1 year later.

They originally tried Linux, but that one did not take at all.
So the took the same source code and did a compile for Mac OS X, that took off, and have had enough customers they kept support Mac for 9 years.

Mac OS X = Unix = Linux = HP (that is more then 90% the same)
And which was this game? Would you say it was graphically near the state of the art when it was released? Did it use a DX wrapper over OpenGL for Windows in the first place like IL-2 can, for example? I highlight "same source code" in particular because there is no physical way it could be the same source code for both DirectX and OpenGL.

I'm perfectly aware of the last sentence, but what's the total cost of ownership of a Linux system compared to a Mac? It's the cost of the components of the system at the cheapest price you can find them, that's all, not about 2x the cost of some extremely poor components that you can't choose for yourself. I don't have any problems with OS X, it just annoys me that I'd have to use their horrible hardware to use it. It's actually something that Microsoft would have been prosecuted for by now, to be honest, it's fairly anti-competitive using a check to make sure that your OS is installed on your own hardware and no others, especially since there's now no physical reason you shouldn't install OS X on other hardware.
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