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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-20-2011, 03:26 PM
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The facts (gathered from various OM team interventions dating as far back as 2006!) are as follows:

1) It has alway been the intent to have a dynamic complex weather system in SoW, with wind, moving fronts, turbulence, variety of clouds and cloud coverage etc; Oleg even mentioned the possibility to use gliders at least in ridge soaring (I do not remember if
the clouds would have their own set of thermal features; however turbulence and sillage were certainly mentioned)

2) More recently, answering to someone asking to see more cloud variety than the (obviously) Il2 placeholders we get in the screenshots he answered that a dedicated artist was working full time on cloud shapes (and presumably types). There is also since long a guy working on the weather system dynamics.

3) At no time Oleg said there would be no new clouds or weather system modelling at release!!! This a rumor started from the answer above ("not ready yet")...
The truth is nobody knows what it will be, as nobody ever told anything on this subject.
It is possible however that this would not be ready in time due to optimization issues, as Luthier stated (very) recently that some nice stuff anticipated to be in the release had been removed temporarily, and would be introduced later on.
But we have no clue, really...so I would refrain inventing catastrophic scenarios!

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Old 01-20-2011, 03:41 PM
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Well, the sim was from the start touted to feature dynamic weather front. That was actually THE main feature when the game was announced, even the title "Storm of War" was meant to be an indicator of the feature, so to speak.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:51 PM
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why would the functionality of weather in a period combat sim be the main feature????....utter nonsense.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:28 PM
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Maybe because weather and flight go forever together...and because a great many missions from all types (fight, bomb, ferry, recce...) were successful (or not, or even tragically ended) because of weather issues...because weather killed (and still kills) as surely as enemy fighters...
USAAF lost 88,000 crew in WWII including a staggering 32,000 (40%!) in non-combat related occurences: of them, I would say that the majority was weather-related...and this kind of terrible tally is certainly to be duplicated in the other air forces, if not worse as weather was not always very kind in the UK and continental Europe compared to the US training areas!

So I would not dismiss weather complex functionalities that lightly...I would even say this is vital and was really severely missing from Il2 (even if there was a first approach of weather depiction)!

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Old 01-20-2011, 05:29 PM
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why would the functionality of weather in a period combat sim be the main feature????....utter nonsense.
I wanted to laugh when I read your post but then I remembered I played a sports car simulation with NO weather simulated (rFactor) for years

!what is incredible in this COD is the lack of factual elements we have at our disposal to discuss in forum
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:05 PM
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what is incredible in this COD is the lack of factual elements we have at our disposal to discuss in forum
oh for god sake.....IT IS NOT RELEASED YET!
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:54 PM
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From Oleg's comments it is suggested that the weather was being developed in parallel and it may be a feature delayed for later release (or at least some parts of it may be). That said - some at Ingromir found complex weather variables in the FMB...
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:29 PM
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Maybe because weather and flight go forever together...and because a great many missions from all types (fight, bomb, ferry, recce...) were successful (or not, or even tragically ended) because of weather issues...because weather killed (and still kills) as surely as enemy fighters...
USAAF lost 88,000 crew in WWII including a staggering 32,000 (40%!) in non-combat related occurences: of them, I would say that the majority was weather-related...and this kind of terrible tally is certainly to be duplicated in the other air forces, if not worse as weather was not always very kind in the UK and continental Europe compared to the US training areas!

So I would not dismiss weather complex functionalities that lightly...I would even say this is vital and was really severely missing from Il2 (even if there was a first approach of weather depiction)!

JV
Totally agree. A 20 knot headwind can make all the difference between nursing your crippled, fuel leaking bird back to home base or having to ditch in the channel

As for what will be in the game, nobody knows yet. What we do know is that it's been talked about by the devs since the start of development, as already mentioned we've seen a few screenshots in the FMB about it and thus, my personal estimate is that it will be part of the simulator, if not on release day then on a patch down the road.
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why would the functionality of weather in a period combat sim be the main feature????....utter nonsense.
I can hear the briefing at The German bomber command."Today we are going to fly at anything where the clouds aren't and hope the target can be seen ,oh and we are not sure on fighter escort because they may be affected by wind speed affecting their cruising speed and fuel allowances."
Weather is nothing in a flight sim ,bit like saying the sea isn't modelled in a Naval sim.
Repeat after me ,it is ok to ask a question,i don't have to follow blindly.
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:04 PM
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Stop worrying about the weather. The summer of 1940 was a nice warm summer with mostly clear skies with light clouds. Weather only halted flight operations for a few days.
Guys really need to stop stressing over this kinda stuff, its a wonder Oleg even finished the damn thing with all the nit picking and stressing that goes on.
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