I Want my 4.09 Spit FM's back.........

[6S.Manu]

Originally Posted by Triggaaar

Indeed, and that goes for all planes. The OP has simply said they don't like the new handling, and an axis only flyer thinks that's funny, which I don't really understand.

I doubt the programmers have ever flown one either. They have to base their decisions on a lot of the same information that some of the people here have access to.

Yes I agree. It's interesting to see what people think of the flight modelling of all the planes. It just doesn't make sense to me that someone who likes the game thinks it's laughable than people dislike the flight modelling of a plane that the axis pilot never flies.

I've always had more luck continuing to fight after being shot when in a 109 or 190. I've found the Spit a lot more fragile the the German fighters.
So how are you in a good position to compare the modelling of different fighters?

Look I am one of the guys who don't care if the plane if 5km/h faster than the real plane and so on: I'm perfectly aware that the margin of error of 5% is good enough.

But I'm one of those who likes to review the airplanes flying them in battle environments; I fled Spitfire a lot in training sessions and to balance online missions.
I become a Oleg's Spit-hater because of the great differences between this kind of plane and the other in IL2 (above all his counterparts). The Spitfires were incredible.

Then I think you have to understand if some pilots who really has resigned themself to fly a wierd Fw190 (the "bar" is only the peak of the iceberg in that plane, you'll see) now they find "relaxing" that the plane of their nightmare has been tuned down. After years of "luftwhiners" name calling...

You say that it's easier to survive in a 109 and 190: you're right because people must learn to fly the 109/190 the right way while noobs in the old spitfire model could still score many kills against average pilots and sometimes against veterans too since they don't think about their survival. Infact today I usually don't attack a spitfire at my same altitude. Of course there are exceptions like Fenrir and his teammates and one guy in TD (sorry can't remember the name in this moment) and maybe some others: they used the Spitfire in the way a warbird should be used (!energy fighting!) and could not be killed even if outnumbered.

So IMO this is a great patch since also the average Spitfire pilot has to learn the basics of air fighting.

My squad is used to fly training dogfights at 7km with SpitV vs 109F and the first day using the 4.10 Spitfire all the "Red" pilots were surprised and happy at the same time. The common exlamation was "FINALLY!".

Now I can return to love that plane in IL2 too (but Fenrir is right about those issues).

[JoeA]

You know, I really don't think the whining is going to stop with COD.

I do hope the Spit was made more realistic in any case.

[swiss]

Then I think you have to understand if some pilots who really has resigned themself to fly a wierd Fw190 (the "bar" is only the peak of the iceberg in that plane, you'll see) now they find "relaxing" that the plane of their nightmare has been tuned down. After year of "luftwhiners" calling...

You say that it's easier to survive in a 109 and 190: you're right because people must learn to fly the 109/190 the right way while noobs in the old spitfire model could still score many kills

Amen.