Please go to the Ubisoft forum for discussions about publisher / DRM?

[FG28_Kodiak]

From a official on german UBI Forum.

Online connection only for Activation, no permanent Internet Connection needed.
http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/...409#1801049409

So no Problem for me

[Novotny]

Absolutely excellent post and bloody good point. This forum should be for discussion of 1C's software, namely the games. Whilst I may have my opinions regarding the other subject, Mazex is quite right to point out it is for discussion on Ubi's forum; if you wish to make a point, that's where it will be most useful. It certainly is bloody tiresome to wade through the same old crap here.

[Blackdog_kt]

Kodiak, thanks for the link. I know what they said but i didn't have an actual link.

The things is, a lot of people don't know and want to ask. This has been the main forum for this game the past few years and we have quite a few newcomers (i see a lot of people with very low post counts the last couple of days) who were probably told that this is the place to get some of their questions answered.

Also, even "long-timers" like us don't know a lot about how this one time activation will work. Is it a limited activation/deactivation scheme or not? Does it have optional automatic or manual patching or is it forced autopatching like RoF? Etc, etc, etc.
Stuff like that is totally unimportant for some but very important for others, so it's good if people know enough before they decide to make a purchase. Better to have enough knowledge and make an informed decision than being disappointed and making bad publicity. A disappointed customer can be more damaging than no customer



That's why i proposed that since people will keep asking no matter if we like or not, maybe it would be a good idea to have a dedicated thread for it. Which brings me to Novotny's point.

Novotny: You won't have to wade through it if there's a single, dedicated DRM thread. Just one thread, not taking over the entire board with similar threads, just containing this discussion in a single one.
Now, if someone saw a dedicated DRM discussion only thread and they decided to click on it, then it obviously means they are interested enough in what is being said in there and they have no further ground to object.

I can understand not wanting comments about DRM popping up all over in irrelevant threads and derailing the discussion, it's not wanting comments about DRM at all that i object to, because as long as people have a concern to voice you can't prevent such comments coming up, day in and day out. Let's keep it in a sticky thread and everyone's happy

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

I can understand not wanting comments about DRM popping up all over in irrelevant threads and derailing the discussion, it's not wanting comments about DRM at all that i object to, because as long as people have a concern to voice you can't prevent such comments coming up, day in and day out. Let's keep it in a sticky thread and everyone's happy

Well, the thing is that people spending time writing arguments here about their objections against certain DRM solutions that will not be read by someone that can actually do something about it. No way that Oleg will have the time to wade through these threads and if he did - do you think he would bring them to the next meeting with Ubisoft? If posts are made in the appropriate forums on Ubisoft containing good arguments vs the possible solution someone managing the forums MIGHT talk with someone that actually can change something... But don't bet on it.

When half of the threads here end up in:

1. "I hate Ubisoft for reason x,y"
2. "I hate the title, why not call it x instead"
3. "I hate the DRM for reason x (even though the final DRM solution is unknown!)"

it get's rather tiresome as 1 and 2 are just useless discussions as it's a fact and will not change no matter how much we cry, and number 3 is not something that Maddox games or 1C has something to do with...

[GHarris]

Since you asked so nicely, mazex...