1C and Ubisoft Announce IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover

[major_setback]

Am I missing something? Why are people saying that there is no German campaign?

"Exciting Single-Player Campaign – The campaign thrusts the player into the middle of the battle. The player will join the British Air Force to fight the German forces and renegade pilots on his own side, or join the German Luftwaffe and take part in meticulously recreated historical battles."

[Richie]

There is one.




Originally Posted by luthier View Post
There is a full German campaign. Please calm down. The announcement is just a little incomplete.

Sorry about the confusion!

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by Richie

There is one.




Originally Posted by luthier View Post
There is a full German campaign. Please calm down. The announcement is just a little incomplete.

Sorry about the confusion!

Ahh, just read that myself...but I still don't understand why people missed it..it's stated clearly.

[JG52Uther]

People missed it because it wasn't in the original post.Notice the post has been editted.

[FAE_Cazador]

Today's news are good news, but, respectfully, few news.

News:
a.1) Released date March 2011
a.2) Publisher: Ubi (and a embryo of webpage)
a.3) Collector's Edition with a historical Spitfire Manual/Document
a.4) Renegade pilots flying for the Luftwaffe (Awesome ! )

Nothing more.


Already known (just following Oleg's good old Friday updates):

b.1) Planeset (not fully explained in release news)
b.2) Map printed in a cloth : this was already leaked/announced by Luthier weeks ago even asking to the community for historical background
b.3) Part of the footage already shown in Igromir show (to the fortunate spectators) or to the Internet in Youtube, via Iphones, etc.
b.4) DM and FM much more accurate
b.5) Better AI
b.6) Much more accurate environment (wheater etc)
b.7) Higly detailed ground objects
b.8 ) Scenario (obvious)
b.9) Graphic Software (DX11)
b10) Name (for somebody )
b11) RAF and Luftwaffe (and italian CAI) careers (Thanks, Luthier, for the correction)


Unknown yet (some very important)

c.1) Specs
c.2) DRM or antipiracy software
c.3) Cover
c.4) Price
c.5) Sale of Normal Edition (Steam? , direct download like ROF?
c.6) Activation mode (Internet connection full time even off-line? only 1 activation when purchased?
c.7) Worldwide release or different dates for countries
c.8 ) Forum?
c.9) Full Webpage
c10) Merchadising (Wall Papers, posters)

...and probably many other.

And finally, the quality of the video is, in my humble opinion, poor to show the great new capabilities of this Sim. Taken from old footage from low-end computer, short, and not transmitting the potential of this Sim. Just it looked like another Air Simulator more.

IMHO, this new Sim deserved a better Marketing campaign, better video, a better webpage, a Forum started, and a much more intense media speech to explain to newcomers what it really will be, and to spread illusion between us ,the old foxes that are expecting this great Sim for years.

Sorry, it is my feeling, ilusion and disappointment a the same time. It seems like if , suddenly, they were in a hurry. Why? Leaks?

I repeat, respectfully to all, specially to 1C Management and Dev Team.

PD: Of course, no doubt I'll purchase the Collector's Edition...

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by FAE_Cazador

IMHO, this new Sim deserved a better Marketing campaign, better video, a better webpage, a Forum started, and a much more intense media speech to explain to newcomers what it really will be

Yes it does deserve all that, but so what? The main thing is there's been an official announcement that it's due to be released in March. That's fantastic news. The fact is that it's now close enough that we don't have to worry much about system specs because a) we'll probably find out shortly, and b) we'll definitely know when it's out. You mention price - there is a pre-order price on the ubi website. It's just been announced today, you don't need to know everything from day one, and as you pointed out, we've already been told much of it before now - that's a good thing, not a bad thing that the news isn't new today.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by FAE_Cazador

Today's news are good news, but, respectfully, few news.

News:
a.1) Released date March 2011
a.2) Publisher: Ubi (and a embryo of webpage)
a.3) Collector's Edition with a historical Spitfire Manual/Document
a.4) Renegade pilots flying for the Luftwaffe (Awesome ! )

Nothing more.


Already known (just following Oleg's good old Friday updates):

b.1) Planeset (not fully explained in release news)
b.2) Map printed in a cloth : this was already leaked/announced by Luthier weeks ago even asking to the community for historical background
b.3) Part of the footage already shown in Igromir show (to the fortunate spectators) or to the Internet in Youtube, via Iphones, etc.
b.4) DM and FM much more accurate
b.5) Better AI
b.6) Much more accurate environment (wheater etc)
b.7) Higly detailed ground objects
b.8 ) Scenario (obvious)
b.9) Graphic Software (DX11)
b10) Name (for somebody )
b11) RAF and Luftwaffe (and italian CAI) careers (Thanks, Luthier, for the correction)


Unknown yet (some very important)

c.1) Specs
c.2) DRM or antipiracy software
c.3) Cover
c.4) Price
c.5) Sale of Normal Edition (Steam? , direct download like ROF?
c.6) Activation mode (Internet connection full time even off-line? only 1 activation when purchased?
c.7) Worldwide release or different dates for countries
c.8 ) Forum?
c.9) Full Webpage
c10) Merchadising (Wall Papers, posters)
c11) RAF and Luftwaffe (and italian CAI) careers (Thanks, Luthier, for the correction)

...and probably many other.

And finally, the quality of the video is, in my humble opinion, poor to show the great new capabilities of this Sim. Taken from old footage from low-end computer, short, and not transmitting the potential of this Sim. Just it looked like another Air Simulator more.

IMHO, this new Sim deserved a better Marketing campaign, better video, a better webpage, a Forum started, and a much more intense media speech to explain to newcomers what it really will be, and to spread illusion between us ,the old foxes that are expecting this great Sim for years.

Sorry, it is my feeling, ilusion and disappointment a the same time. It seems like if , suddenly, they were in a hurry. Why? Leaks?

I repeat, respectfully to all, specially to 1C Management and Dev Team.

PD: Of course, no doubt I'll purchase the Collector's Edition...

Big deal. All the information you want will be in the next couple of months. Show a modicum of patience.

[II/JG54_Zent]

FINALLY !!!
that was (is) the longest wait ever for a piece of software....
i think they originally announced it 2006, wasnt it ?

the only problem i have is that i have to divide my flying time now between ROF and CoD (stupid title by the way)....imho they could have waited a year more to get it bugfree and ...noo...dont throw that big stone at me ..help !

[whatnot]

Originally Posted by FAE_Cazador

Sorry, it is my feeling, ilusion and disappointment a the same time. It seems like if , suddenly, they were in a hurry. Why? Leaks?

This stuff is beyond me. One waits for years to know when to get out of jail as there is no definate date.. and once that date is set a few months from now it can in some twisted way be a disappointing as the warden didn't mention the make of the car that will be there to pick you up.

My analogy might suck but so does comments like this from people with tears in their eyes as they don't know what the DRM etc. will be like the first minute the official announcement is out..

[FAE_Cazador]

Originally Posted by whatnot

My analogy might suck but so does comments like this from people with tears in their eyes as they don't know what the DRM etc. will be like the first minute the official announcement is out..

My worry is not the DRM stuff, sir, may be I did not explain myself well.

My point is that, a so long awaited by all of us new Flight Simulator, that probably will set up a new level in this market (as IL-2 did), would have deserved a better explained, and more documented and even spectacular release note. They want to sell the product, don't they?