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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-18-2011, 09:54 AM
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And flying pencil... you need to go outside more often and think about something else than this new game`s title... im amazed by how much effort you go through to state your objection to it...

face it... its COD.

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this post is not meant as an offence to you, but just like you, i state my oppinion about things i disapprove with
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:20 PM
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CoD = Call of Duty?
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:23 PM
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CoD = Call of Duty?
Cliffs of Dover. Confusing isn't it?
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:11 AM
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Guys, let's not point fingers and argue about what name is best from an aesthetic (and thus, purely subjective) point of view.

I don't care what the name is as long as:
1) It makes it clear that it's a game about flying airplanes in WWII, possibly making a mention of the sub-setting/theater of operations and
2) There's a small piece of text that makes it even clearer that it's made by the guys who made IL2 BUT it's completely new from the ground up and definitely not part of the original 10 year old series.

My humble opinion is that if we want something done about it, it will need to be done just as a way to ensure better market penetration, as in "dear 1c team, we your fans fear you might lose some sales because of this" and not in a manner of "omg,lolz, this is a stupid title, plx change". I'm exaggerating here and ending up being a wannabe forum comedian with a bad taste in jokes, but you get my drift

If there's a case to be presented to the devs and most importantly the publishers, it will have to be done this way. "Sirs, this might cost you money" would be enough to grab their attention.

Why do we care? Because we want a game that will sell well enough so that we can see expansions in the future.

Let's not complicate things any further than they have to be. If the community here is concerned about the title and wants to start a vote/poll or whatever let's start from the basic stuff instead of individually giving our own example. I'm sure that if it can be changed in the 2 months until release and we make the publisher realize what kind of title would be fitting for the game, they would have enough people getting paid to come up with a better name.

The issue is not if or how much i like the name, but the two numbered points i made above and this:

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3 months from now:

"I just bought Pacific Fighters, but it won't install into Cliffs of Dover.
Nor 1946 either. I tried buying the Complete Edition just to save trouble, but I can't even find CoD in it! Help please.

BTW, what is a Storm of Vik?"
This has all the potential to give someone who's new to the series a bit of a headache for the first couple of days, while it is in the sims and our own best interest that the first impression be as positive as possible.

We want it to install and play fine right out of the box with no or minimal hassle involved so that everyone can spend their time going "oooh" and "aaaah" and "did you see that?! amazing!" for the first few hours/days, without the slightest bit of sour taste involved in the process.

And guess what, Oleg Maddox and his team want and need the same thing. Heck, even Ubi wants it.
Just because they make a killing with other titles doesn't mean they want even one of their published games to do poorly, no matter how much of a niche genre it is in.
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Old 01-19-2011, 02:55 PM
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"My concern would be that people might think its just another addon for tired old IL-2, when its actually a brand spanking new game."

About this aspect, the "official" trailer is rather confusing.
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Old 01-19-2011, 03:46 PM
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"My concern would be that people might think its just another addon for tired old IL-2, when its actually a brand spanking new game."

About this aspect, the "official" trailer is rather confusing.
Nobody's gonna buy this thinking it's an add on.. Flight Sim gamers read the box.
If you buy a game without reading the box you deserve everything you get.

If it's confusing people it says more about the people it's confusing, than it does the trailer.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:06 PM
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My concern would be that people might think its just another addon for tired old IL-2, when its actually a brand spanking new game.
My thoughts exactly. There are in fact lots of people who come here from time to time after a long absence from the hobby and guess what's the first thing they ask about...what kind of game version/expansion we're currently using.

It's not people who don't care about flight sims, but people who are simmers and had to take a long break due to real life and they're confused now, because of the myriad of add-ons, the mods and the similarly titled console release. Do we have to make it even more confusing?

There was a perfectly fine solution and that was to add "from the makers of the critically acclaimed IL2 sturmovik series" below the new title, or "the makers of the critically acclaimed IL2 series present" above it.

Instead, it's like someone over at Ubi's marketing department thought "let's spend as less time as possible in this meeting so we don't miss the lunch break" and slapped the old series title on it
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:13 PM
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Ridiculous name. Oleg obviously had to give up his discussion with an incompetent moron at Ubisoft. When the communication is so bad between a developer and a publisher we can only cross our fingers that Oleg wishes to continue on to Korea. Probably he will just give up 1C and instead concentrate on his photography and next job.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:23 PM
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Ridiculous name. Oleg obviously had to give up his discussion with an incompetent moron at Ubisoft. When the communication is so bad between a developer and a publisher we can only cross our fingers that Oleg wishes to continue on to Korea. Probably he will just give up 1C and instead concentrate on his photography and next job.
So it's not even out yet and already no Korea and Olegs leaving... jeez

This forum has got cancer. Caused, mainly, by a bunch of spoilt brats.

If putting words into Olegs mouth, wild speculation and negativity are your thing then look no further than the 1c IL-2 forum.

I've said it before, some on here act like a gang of moaning old ladies.

I've some advice.. If you don't like the DRM/Box/Graphics/Campaign/Publisher/Name/Spitfire Manual/ then don't buy the game. Simple.

It'll be a good way of cleaning out the games gene pool too.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:32 PM
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So it's not even out yet and already no Korea and Olegs leaving... jeez

It'll be a good way of cleaning out the games gene pool too.
Shut up
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