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Old 01-16-2011, 04:40 PM
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I remember when starting out with Il2. I exploited every FMB feature possible. Worked on campaigns and missions for hours on end. I spent three years just enjoying the things I could do with IL2 on the Kuban map.

Lock ON devs have worn out the Crimea map and still keep adding.
Someone mentioned the map has expanded into the Kuban. Since I don't do the Lock On I wouldn't know for sure.

What I'm saying is... there is plenty that can be done for a long time everyone will enjoy. One quality map, a good FMB and improved AI will make the BOB a greater starter package, and the improved programming tools in the FMB and AI will be awesome.

I know the plane screamers will start immediately, along with the mappers.
They have a cup that will never be filled. Look at all the constant barrage of whines on the TD threads for aircraft. Always people wanting new aircraft. I doubt most of the whiners give a rat's behind. The just think they want something, until the get it. They spend a couple days with it and move on to other wants.

I think aircraft should be $old in packets by war theatre with the opposing forces aircraft from the same time period. Then people can put their money where their mouth is... and actually do something with the added aircraft. Maybe the inclusion of a couple maps and some ground objects could round out the package.

Actually, this might be a good revenue producer and Oleg could still sell addon editions. LOL
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Old 01-16-2011, 05:13 PM
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I remember when starting out with Il2. I exploited every FMB feature possible. Worked on campaigns and missions for hours on end. I spent three years just enjoying the things I could do with IL2 on the Kuban map.

Lock ON devs have worn out the Crimea map and still keep adding.
Someone mentioned the map has expanded into the Kuban. Since I don't do the Lock On I wouldn't know for sure.

What I'm saying is... there is plenty that can be done for a long time everyone will enjoy. One quality map, a good FMB and improved AI will make the BOB a greater starter package, and the improved programming tools in the FMB and AI will be awesome.

I know the plane screamers will start immediately, along with the mappers.
They have a cup that will never be filled. Look at all the constant barrage of whines on the TD threads for aircraft. Always people wanting new aircraft. I doubt most of the whiners give a rat's behind. The just think they want something, until the get it. They spend a couple days with it and move on to other wants.

I think aircraft should be $old in packets by war theatre with the opposing forces aircraft from the same time period. Then people can put their money where their mouth is... and actually do something with the added aircraft. Maybe the inclusion of a couple maps and some ground objects could round out the package.

Actually, this might be a good revenue producer and Oleg could still sell addon editions. LOL
Ha ha, well then certain UFO would never have reached anyones game! Just need to think of that silly Lerche one of the most unnecessary aircraft in the whole sim. After first trails who uses that thing? If paying for aircraft would force developers to stick to aircraft needed for mission building, and leaving ridiculous aircraft, next to no one needs, a side only then, that would be a good idea. But is that really new? We had the "ace expansion pack", "Forgotten Battles", "Pacific Fighters", "PE2" etc. for which we payed.....so nothing really new.....and still we got the nut case aircraft in 1946 that just take up space but no one really uses.
A poll held at certain times left to run say four to five weeks, which area should be developed next would be a neat thing, and yes it can be a payed expansion....I would prefer that to getting aircraft for free that I will never use and just take up space.
But then will the developers even listen to customer wishes? Or will they just make what ever they fancy?
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Old 01-16-2011, 05:48 PM
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You would prefer paying for every single flyable instead of having a bunch of them for free, because they "take up space"? LOL

Now that's something really important to take notice of. A few megs of harddrive space in a game that takes 4+ gigs....
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Old 01-16-2011, 05:59 PM
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You would prefer paying for every single flyable instead of having a bunch of them for free, because they "take up space"? LOL

Now that's something really important to take notice of. A few megs of harddrive space in a game that takes 4+ gigs....
Well LOL to you too, of what use are free bees when no one needs and uses them? Mind explaining? Yes I would pay if that would garantie that needed aircraft make it into the sim yes! As what missions is anyone going to make with those UFOs we got stuffed in on the 1946 dvd? Have you seen them on any servers after the first year 1946 came out? I doubt it! So LoL to you, if you can not see the point.
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Old 01-16-2011, 07:12 PM
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well lol to you too, of what use are free bees when no one needs and uses them? Mind explaining? Yes i would pay if that would garantie that needed aircraft make it into the sim yes! As what missions is anyone going to make with those ufos we got stuffed in on the 1946 dvd? Have you seen them on any servers after the first year 1946 came out? I doubt it! So lol to you, if you can not see the point.
LMAO

You speak too much from your own point of view. I know plenty of guys that enjoys the odd aircrafts in the 1946 expansion on occasion, myself included, so stating that "noone uses them" is plain wrong. If you want a real challenge, try landing a Lerche.

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Old 01-16-2011, 08:08 PM
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LMAO

You speak too much from your own point of view. I know plenty of guys that enjoys the odd aircrafts in the 1946 expansion on occasion, myself included, so stating that "noone uses them" is plain wrong. If you want a real challenge, try landing a Lerche.
Of course I speak from my point of view, as I can only guess others point of views. And no I have never and never will fly that stupid thing Lerche. I much rather would have flown a G3M1 or a Do24 instead of that silly plane, that is useless, except for giving some kids a few minutes of fun.

Going by that logic one could then add something like this into RO2
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Old 01-16-2011, 08:34 PM
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Of course I speak from my point of view, as I can only guess others point of views. And no I have never and never will fly that stupid thing Lerche. I much rather would have flown a G3M1 or a Do24 instead of that silly plane, that is useless, except for giving some kids a few minutes of fun.
Stating things about others gaming habits on a guess.....
I think you're forgetting that it is a game. If anyone that plays it for fun is a kid, then so be it!!

Nice toilet.
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Old 01-16-2011, 08:16 PM
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IL2 will stay in my hard drive for many years for sure.
Sometimes I need to fly my beloved IAR81!! Or the mighty Tupolev.
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Old 01-16-2011, 08:19 PM
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Speaking for myself and the couple of dozen people that I fly regularly with I can't imagine any of us instantly deleting IL-2. You can be sure that we'll be giving the new sim a good go, but I don't see it being a case of never flying an I-16 in the Khalkin Gol again; or any of the other favourites that we enjoy on a regular basis every week. Perhaps if the new sim is so far ahead that it makes all the other stuff seem tired we might give it an honourable retirement - but with so many things still happening in IL-2 I can't see it falling out of the zone for a few years yet.

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I will only fly CoD exclusively, that's if it's half as good as advertised. I just can't imagine IL-2 competing for my limited time. Time marches on, no sense wasteing it with a great, but old school tired sim, with a crazy on-line mix.
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