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Old 02-13-2011, 07:48 AM
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I purchased it when it was first released. I saw it's wonderful potential, but frankly I was rather cheezed because it felt like I paid full price for an incomplete product. Several patches and many moons later, it's MUCH more complete and smoother running. Visually fantastic and a great flyer. I still find the online system confusing and frustrating and my attempts to figure it out have quickly lead to IL-2 sessions. I suppose you could take a friend to a movie with your money instead, but that's risky!
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:13 AM
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I have it but I'm a really disappointed with it, I use a logitech 3D stick, so I'm not sure it's the stick but I found the flight model overdone. The planes really overeact, and bob around making it extremely difficult to line up a shot. Also I find the gunnery unrealistic. It seems I need to pump an unreal amount of hits into a plane to see any damage effect, and yet the ai planes, including tail gunners only seem to need to hit me once or twice to take me out. The only way I managed to reduce these problems is to set myself into "invincible" and "simple" flight model. But that now makes it feel like an arcade game,..but at least I now can "fly" it. Although the graphics are nice. I have every version of IL2 and found even the early versions fly , handle, and shoot much better and more realistic than ROF. Plus ROF only gives you about 4 flyable planes, and you need to purchase each extra plane for 7 or 8 bucks each, a real rip off in my humble opinion. I'm a real pilot by the way, so I should have a pretty good idea of what feels more realistic.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:13 AM
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Onlyforbrian, maybe it's time for a new joystick. I just replaced my CH Combat stick with a Warthog Hotas. Took it up for a qmb duel in a FokkerDVII. Dispatched 5 Camels with 270 bullets(135 per gun). This was at the easy AI setting so not that big of a deal but compared to before. I used too spend all 500 bullets and maybe get 1 or 2 kills. I can now aim at the engine and set it on fire or put 15 or 20 bullets in a wingroot and it'll snap right off when he pulls a bunch of g's.

I went from spray and pray to sniper over night(offline). It's not me it's the stick. The flight models for the rotary engine equiped aircraft are squirly and I'm still getting used to using the torque to my advantage. I have no real stick time in rotaries so I can't comment if it's realistic or not.

The inline equiped planes feel like the reall deal though. I've got about 350 hrs in gliders, mostly older K7, K8 and even some anno 1938 Gronau Baby time. These wood and metal, covered with doped linnen gliders feel just like the kites in RoF. Forward and sideslips are a blast and even sound like the real thing.

Anyone getting bored with RoF should join a full real server. I did a few days ago and that was a whole new experience. I got nailed a couple of times and never knew who or what hit me. One moment I see a speck on the horizon and by the time I recognized it as a bandit he allready punched me a bloody nose. Sobering to say the least. Even with CoD coming out soon, this thing's going to stay on my hard drive for a while.

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Old 02-13-2011, 07:27 AM
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:40 PM
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THANKS MAYBE I'LL TRY ANOTHER JOYSTICK..THE SPRING IN THE LOGITECH FEELS REALLY HEAVY, AND I NEVER TRIED IT ON il2 YET, MY il2 FLEW LIKE A DREAM WHEN I WAS USING A VERY OLD MICROSOFT 3d SIDEWINDER. ALSO, HOW DO YOU SWITCH TO BOMBER GUNNER OR CAN YOU?
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:52 PM
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Buy Rise of FLight. It's the greatest WWI sim out there, graphics, flightmodel, regular updates,... and as a sim in general it's the greatest too. Even if CoD would be even better, RoF will still be the best WWI flightsim out there. And, as you're here because you're interested in WWII aircraft, you must have at least a slight interest in WWI aircraft too and RoF is simply the best sim for that era.


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Old 02-14-2011, 02:01 PM
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Man, that Gotha bomber is a mean beast. I just love that flight model. Is one of the most fun plane to fly in any game so far. I like that flight model even more than that Black Shark.
Just gorgeous fun.
After I saw few clips from CoD, I think ROF players will addapt very quickly to the new FM. If you can fly the Gotha and the DH2 you won't have any problem with a Spit or 109.

A couple of nights in Syndicate server in ROF is the best training one can have for CoD.
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:15 PM
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THANKS MAYBE I'LL TRY ANOTHER JOYSTICK..THE SPRING IN THE LOGITECH FEELS REALLY HEAVY, AND I NEVER TRIED IT ON il2 YET, MY il2 FLEW LIKE A DREAM WHEN I WAS USING A VERY OLD MICROSOFT 3d SIDEWINDER. ALSO, HOW DO YOU SWITCH TO BOMBER GUNNER OR CAN YOU?
ROF planes need constant imput and adjustment and dramatically more work close to stall speeds. Maybe that's why feels so different.

To use the bomber gunners you click Ctrl+C to switch to the position you want and then press T to take control of the gun. Just be careful what you shoot at. Specially when you shoot from the Gotha trough that tunel in the fuselage. I shot a bunch of holes in the belly of the plane trying to hit that sneaky Camel. Then when i finally got over the target at decent altitude, my bombs wouldn't drop. I shot the bomb release mechanism.

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Old 02-14-2011, 02:46 PM
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PM me if you want a working logitech profile (it is very difficult to fly DCS or ROF using these older sticks).
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:55 PM
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That's funny Jaws...I guess it was funny too the first time these piloys shot their own props off..they must have said a big... WTF??? Anyway thanks for the gunner info
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