4.10 Official Release

[Xallo]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

This is indeed a thorny issue. TIR is quite an advantage, but there are lots of folks who do not use it that are supremely successful in aerial combat. One of my squad mates, BlitzPig_Raven, uses his mouse with his left hand to look around and he is a deadly opponent.

Personally I don't see 6dof as a deal breaker, and if you are honest about it, it does let you look around in ways that a real human could never do, unless you had a meter long neck made of rubber.

I played air warrior back in those days, and did pretty well in the 2d cockpit, and have seen youtube vids of guys using snap views extremly well, but I still hope for official 6dof support.

[Seeker]

I'd say 6 DOF and a lack of four engined bombers plus the mere existence of Canon's map will keep the Mods servers populated.

Which is a shame; because that means there will still be compatibility problems and religious wars.

The argument that 6 DOF is not for all is completely specious, as has been pointed out, why not disable HOTAS and high end graphic cards? Nothing is "for all", there's no comunism in hardware marketing!

I'd have happily dropped all the nav aids and funky cruise missile bombs for a unified "scene".

[csThor]

It's not that difficult to understand why 6DOF is problematic. For once a number of cockpits would need a major makeover. And - just like Caspar said - we'd need to have a similar system (i.e. lean left/right) for non-TIR users. Not everyone has the 150€ for a little bit of electronics. We simmers are often accused of elitism, I suggest we don't prove that statement any more true, okay?

[JAMF]

Originally Posted by csThor

For once a number of cockpits would need a major makeover.

Cosmetics, which are not a deal-breaker. I doubt anyone with 6DoF will demand every bit be fixed. He will fly his favourite aircraft regardless of cosmetics.

By that backward reasoning, just like banning HOTAS use, the game should be limited to a fixed res and 4:3. I wouldn't be able to fly in 48:9.

Originally Posted by csThor

Not everyone has the 150€ for a little bit of electronics. We simmers are often accused of elitism, I suggest we don't prove that statement any more true, okay?

So no one has heard of the cheap/free alternatives called freetrack or FaceTrackNoIR? A webcam can be found dead cheap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXNSZJBJVMU

[Xallo]

I see the 4.10 as a pretty successful attempt to bringing the crowd alive again, like Falcon:AF did for the falcon community.. a few steps forward, a few steps back.. but a stable, common, platform.

I know FF 5.x, and the age of F4:AF got people sliding on in different directions, but that took a few years.