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Old 12-31-2010, 06:42 PM
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As to "single bullet" damage to wings not being a factor for "red" planes, I guess you don't fly Yaks much huh?

One hit to the wing and you are combat ineffective.

All this Blue vs. Red whining is just a smokescreen by the whiners on both sides. It isn't about historic performance, it's about the points online.

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^ Pretty much.
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As to "single bullet" damage to wings not being a factor for "red" planes, I guess you don't fly Yaks much huh?

One hit to the wing and you are combat ineffective.

All this Blue vs. Red whining is just a smokescreen by the whiners on both sides. It isn't about historic performance, it's about the points online.

Be sure.

for once we are in 100% agreement

happy new year
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Maybe i used the wrong term, but the p-51 had characteristics that lead it to an accelerated stall, something like a "snap roll", quite easily compared to other aircraft. It was stable but not for turn fights, it was built for speed not tight turns.

Maybe the 109s are too fast and the elevator heavy.

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for once we are in 100% agreement

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Happy New Year fruitbat. All the best.

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Ok, try to attack to an airfield which covered by flacks with any russian planes (except Migs) or any raf planes or any american planes. Then try to do the same with any Stuka, Bf or FW series. You will see how the German planes weak against any hit from ground. It is the same against any gunfire from Ally planes. If i am wrong, i will never talk about this.
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In my experience, offline only, attacking airfields, flying red, is suicide. I refuse those missions. I fully believe that they are also suicide for blue, but that's not different from red.
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.... flying red, is suicide .... are also suicide for blue
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