Questions regarding the He-111 bombloads

[Avimimus]

Thanks,

A bomber with only two external hardpoints is an interesting plane.

It is also interesting that MG's standards for research were a bit lower back in the day.

P.S. Isn't the rack on the H-12 actually a PVC instead of an ETC?
(no real idea what either means)...

[csThor]

No idea. I'm no authority on external bomb attachment devices.

[_1SMV_Gitano]

Originally Posted by Avimimus

Thanks,

A bomber with only two external hardpoints is an interesting plane.

It is also interesting that MG's standards for research were a bit lower back in the day.

P.S. Isn't the rack on the H-12 actually a PVC instead of an ETC?
(no real idea what either means)...

We are talking about technical details of war planes that flew fifty-sixty years ago. Plus add the fact that in may cases the documentation was lost, etc. The matter is controversial and always will.

Anyway, talking about the He 111, the aircraft had already an internal load of 2000 kg, but its bomb bays were not able to contain bombs larger than the SC 250. Thus came the racks. There were two types of racks, ETC for bombs up to 2000 kg (or more?) and the PVC racks for torpedoes. At the moment I don't recall the name of the rack used in the H-12.

[Avimimus]

So it isn't decisively settled? Rats! Of course, I just looked through a couple hundred pictures of He-111s (primarily online) and I've yet to see a load-out that matches the original one in Il-2 - although I've found pictures of He-111's carrying a single 250kg bomb externally (which means that we're missing the 250kg payloads)!

There were PVC1006 were designed for large bombs, but were converted for torpedoes (PVR1006L?) - in addition to the ETC-2000.

The five bomb universal rack is refered to as another form of PVC and was introduced on some H-11 series (according to the Wikipedia - however I lack the book cited).



Here is a picture showing the same rack with what appear to be the small supply pallets (there were at least three types - 250kg ones, 700kg crates, and the late war 800kg ones).

P.S. Bizarrely, there is also mention of a field mod with three fixed forward firing guns!

[Biggs [CV]]

The He-111H-4 was equipted with 2 external racks for a 3968lb bombload. They also had Jumo 211D-1 engines for more power, and had more fuel capacity for increased range. (Per: The Concise Guide to Axis Aircraft of World war 2, by David Mondey.)

[KG26_Alpha]

More strangely the H6 2xSC 2000 kg payload has been halved to 1xSC 2000 kg in v4.10

Also there no point in using 2xSC1000 kg payload as they cannot be dropped separately.

The JU88A4 had a fantasy load out of 2xSC2000 in v409m, but the H6 could carry this so why has it been removed ?





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[Avimimus]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

More strangely the H6 2xSC 2000 kg payload has been halved to 1xSC 2000 kg in v4.10

Also there no point in using 2xSC1000 kg payload as they cannot be dropped separately.

The JU88A4 had a fantasy load out of 2xSC2000 in v409m, but the H6 could carry this so why has it been removed ?

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The highest bombload carried by a He-111 was a little over 3200kg - and that required rocket assistance for takeoff. The programmer simply doubled the bomb load for all larger bombs because they assumed that bombloads are always mounted symmetrically.

There are indeed photos of 2xSC1000 loadouts - but SC1000 were usually carried one at a time and this was always the case with the larger bombs.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by Avimimus

The highest bombload carried by a He-111 was a little over 3200kg - and that required rocket assistance for takeoff. The programmer simply doubled the bomb load for all larger bombs because they assumed that bombloads are always mounted symmetrically.

There are indeed photos of 2xSC1000 loadouts - but SC1000 were usually carried one at a time and this was always the case with the larger bombs.

Some tech info on the He111 H6

From

Jane`s Fighting Aircraft of World war II
isbn 1 85170 199 0
Bracken Books
London
Originally published by Jane`s Publishing Company 1946/47

Specification.- He111H-6.
Year.- 1939.
Crew.- Five (pilot, Observer, Radio operator/gunner, Engineer/Gunner , Gunner).
Power Plant.- Two Junker Jumo 211D-2 12-cylinder, liquid-cooled engines each developing 1200 hp.
take-off and emergency 1,200 hp. at 2.400 r.p.m. at 1.35 ata at sea-level,
1,210 h.p. at 2.400 r.p.m. at 1.35 ata at 820 ft.
climbing 930 h.p. at 2.300 r.p.m. at 1.15 ata. at sea-level,
930 h.p. at 2,300 r.p.m. at 1.15 ata. at 16,500 ft. maximum cruising 790 h.p. at 2,100 r.p.m.
at 1.1 ata, at sea-level, 800 h.p. at 2,100 r.p.m. at 1.1 ata, at 14,700 ft.
Dimensions.- Span 74 ft , 3 in. (22,6 meter), Length 54 ft. 6 in. (16,6 m), Height 13 ft. 9 in.
(4,2 m), Wing aria 942 sq. ft. (87,6 sq. m.).
Weights.- Weight empty 17,000 lbs. (7,720 kg.) , Normal loaded weight 26,500 lbs. (12,030 kg.),
Maximum permissible overloaded weight 31,000 lbs. (14,075 kg.).
Performance.- Maximum speed 250 m.p.h. (400 km.h.) at 17,000 ft. ( 5,185 m.),
max speed 258mph (416 km.h.) at 19,680ft.
Climb to 17,000 ft (5.185 m.) 20 mins., Service ceiling 27,500 ft. (8,390 m.),
Range with maximum fuel 1,750 miles (2,800 km.).




I'm not commenting on performance or the loadouts

I just wondered why they were changed.

Also interesting Vid for bomb release systems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUn9N...eature=related