4.10 Support & Bug Reporting

[vparez]

Originally Posted by Fenrir

The induced roll in the 4.10 Spits is happening at anywhere above ~200mph and is NOT torque. Torque roll would always be to the left, this is to the right.

I think you are right, and then the culprit is probably the default aileron trim value in the FM. Possibly there is a +- sign error there, since this built in trim is too much for the current torque of the engine.

Any word from TD?

[FS~Phat]

Guys for the record I know the FM was changed I was asking if this level of trim change was intended as part of the flight model changes or if it is now a bug as a result of the changes. I have been flying il2 spits since day dot and this change seems totally out of character for the spit. I also asked if DT could elaborate on exactly what was changed in the Flight Model.

Cheers guys I appreciate all your opinions and input to let the DT guys what we think of the changes, but please keep the flaming out of it. Let's be one big grateful family for the wonderful gift the DT guys have given us and be thankful that Oleg allowed the licensing to go to some dedicated guys.

[SturmKreator]

If you are going to discuss the FM, please do it with documents in hand and read a lot, can not use the old FM parameter of 4.09, because it is a game does not represent reality

[C6_Krasno]

Originally Posted by Aviar

However, has DT officially stated that the 4.09 and 4.10 Spit FM's are the same? (If not, there's not much anyone can do, is there?)

From the User Guide of the 4.10, first page, section "Main Features" :
"• Revised flight models for all Spitfires"

They maybe tried not to call it ReadMe in order to get people to read it, but apparently it did not work ^^

[ZaltysZ]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

I don't know, what numbers are suitable for Yak fighters, but the ones you named, do not sound strange to me. And yes, at a fixed power (throttle) setting, a fixed prop pitch mean stable revolutions (RPM). You must understand, 100% propitch doesn't mean a flat propellar. The pitch is set for a wanted RPM.

I still wonder, what seems so strange to you in this?

I think he says that RPM do not react to prop pitch change from 100% to 50% like the prop is not constant speed one, but a variable pitch one with discrete positions. However, he should at least see RPM change with speed then. I can't test how it is now, but I think all yaks in 4.09 used to have constant speed props.