Questions regarding the He-111 bombloads

[csThor]

Carrying four larger bombs externally was not possible before the introduction of the same new ETC as you can see on the new H-12. Which means prior to 4.10 the H-6 carried too much.

[LukeFF]

Was the H-12 ever used in combat? All my sources say it wasn't - that it was mainly used for training in the Baltic.

[csThor]

It wasn't. It was mainly a testbed for the Hs 293, but we needed to give the players an aircraft that can operate the new guided weapons.

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by csThor

It wasn't. It was mainly a testbed for the Hs 293, but we needed to give the players an aircraft that can operate the new guided weapons.

Cool, thanks.

[Avimimus]

Thanks,

A bomber with only two external hardpoints is an interesting plane.

It is also interesting that MG's standards for research were a bit lower back in the day.

P.S. Isn't the rack on the H-12 actually a PVC instead of an ETC?
(no real idea what either means)...

[csThor]

No idea. I'm no authority on external bomb attachment devices.

[_1SMV_Gitano]

Originally Posted by Avimimus

Thanks,

A bomber with only two external hardpoints is an interesting plane.

It is also interesting that MG's standards for research were a bit lower back in the day.

P.S. Isn't the rack on the H-12 actually a PVC instead of an ETC?
(no real idea what either means)...

We are talking about technical details of war planes that flew fifty-sixty years ago. Plus add the fact that in may cases the documentation was lost, etc. The matter is controversial and always will.

Anyway, talking about the He 111, the aircraft had already an internal load of 2000 kg, but its bomb bays were not able to contain bombs larger than the SC 250. Thus came the racks. There were two types of racks, ETC for bombs up to 2000 kg (or more?) and the PVC racks for torpedoes. At the moment I don't recall the name of the rack used in the H-12.

[Avimimus]

So it isn't decisively settled? Rats! Of course, I just looked through a couple hundred pictures of He-111s (primarily online) and I've yet to see a load-out that matches the original one in Il-2 - although I've found pictures of He-111's carrying a single 250kg bomb externally (which means that we're missing the 250kg payloads)!

There were PVC1006 were designed for large bombs, but were converted for torpedoes (PVR1006L?) - in addition to the ETC-2000.

The five bomb universal rack is refered to as another form of PVC and was introduced on some H-11 series (according to the Wikipedia - however I lack the book cited).



Here is a picture showing the same rack with what appear to be the small supply pallets (there were at least three types - 250kg ones, 700kg crates, and the late war 800kg ones).

P.S. Bizarrely, there is also mention of a field mod with three fixed forward firing guns!

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by csThor

It wasn't. It was mainly a testbed for the Hs 293, but we needed to give the players an aircraft that can operate the new guided weapons.

You could give us a flyable Dornier...