4.10 Support & Bug Reporting

[GOA_Potenz]

LoL so much delay and so much bugs

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

LoL so much delay and so much bugs

Bugs are bound to crop up with a patch of this size. No need to be a troll about it.

[GOA_Potenz]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Bugs are bound to crop up with a patch of this size. No need to be a troll about it.

oh come one i did modifications for this game before
we didn't delay such a long time to came up with a pile up
of bugs, plus still keep porked german FM while keep tunnig
US and GB FM for the masses

[IvanK]

For those debating Spitfire Elevator trim and the fact that they are seeing the elevator deflected visibly in external views when trimmed out. Well have a look at a few Air to Air shots of Spitfires and check out the position of the elevator. Its pretty characteristic of the type. Here is a couple of images of a MKXVI (Belongs to the Australian Temora collection) taken from an O2 whilst sitting in close formation and all nicely trimmed out speed at the time 130 Knots IAS:

[rollnloop]

Originally Posted by IvanK

For those debating Spitfire Elevator trim and the fact that they are seeing the elevator deflected visibly in external views when trimmed out. Well have a look at a few Air to Air shots of Spitfires and check out the position of the elevator. Its pretty characteristic of the type. Here is a couple of images of a MKXVI (Belongs to the Australian Temora collection) taken from an O2 whilst sitting in close formation and all nicely trimmed out speed at the time 130 Knots IAS:

Reading your post i'm not too sure Sean, were you in the spit or in the O2 ? I know you fly warbirds occasionnally, did you fly the spit and does it really need much down trim, even at slow speeds and/or low power ? Pilot's notes are quite evasive on the matter.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Well, for you guys complaining of the trim. Have you ever cared to look at the TRIM GAUGE in the Spitfire cockpit? I flew the Sissyfire and trimmed for fast cruise, the needle was less than half the range of the gauge and with less speed close to 0 position. And when had the trim at around 30% of the gauge reading the elevator was at roughly same position as in the photo above. I use trim on a slider, not tapping a key. Compare to FW190 that has the trim gauge too just aft of the throttle marked with an "alpha" sign. In Sissyfire the gauge is below the gear lamp indicator on left side.

[Ian Boys]

Hi Av,

OK, I tried your missions and they did work, so I saw how it should be. I tried mine again and it works fine for Red now (using IL-2 s2 as spotter) but I can't get it to work for blue with either Ju-87B2 or Hurri1 as spotters.

I reckon it might be something as daft as the order you put the things in the game, like with gliders.

Anyway, it's driving me nucking futs.

Can I send you my mission please? Might be something dead obvious ....

ian

[vparez]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

Well, for you guys complaining of the trim. Have you ever cared to look at the TRIM GAUGE in the Spitfire cockpit? I flew the Sissyfire and trimmed for fast cruise, the needle was less than half the range of the gauge and with less speed close to 0 position. And when had the trim at around 30% of the gauge reading the elevator was at roughly same position as in the photo above. I use trim on a slider, not tapping a key. Compare to FW190 that has the trim gauge too just aft of the throttle marked with an "alpha" sign. In Sissyfire the gauge is below the gear lamp indicator on left side.

I don't know what are you implying by your post, but the comparison with FW shows that for a trimmed flight at 100% throttle, FW shows very small displacement of the needle, and it surely needs much less trim than the Spitfire.

I don't know who is a vintage plane pilot here, but as far as I know, a plane never needs much trim for a cruise flight. If you need to trim your plane so much for a cruise flight, it is a very bad design. People can hate the Spitfire here as much as they want, but it was a very well designed airplane, which is confirmed if nothing else then just by its longevity in service.

I don't think that TD should base the FM of a spit on a few photos of in-flight spitfire; and that doesn't explain the fact that it rolls like crazy all the time to the right.

Still no comment from TD on this. I would say they compiled 4.10 with a wrong version of the FM, that's all.

[Azimech]

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

oh come one i did modifications for this game before
we didn't delay such a long time to came up with a pile up
of bugs, plus still keep porked german FM while keep tunnig
US and GB FM for the masses

Go be a jerk somewhere else will ye.

[GOA_Potenz]

Originally Posted by Azimech

Go be a jerk somewhere else will ye.

i'm not being a jerk, just telling the truth