Good thing SOW is Nvidia's friendly !

[Flanker35M]

S!

Hopefully we do NOT see the "TWAT" symbol when starting up SoW one day. Would be a big error to margin a game already in a small niché to just one brand..again. Should have learned that from IL-2.

Blaming AMD for NOT developing SoW with Oleg is pretty darn useless as we do NOT know anything what goes on deep behind the scenes. We get tidbits of info, but Oleg does NOT share confidential information with the community. Be Sure!

I read at some point Luthier(if I remember right) had a machine with AMD 5870HD for testing SoW. Both AMD and NV support DX9-11 that are to be used in SoW, would not worry about it

I run AMD system, have a 580GTX too and must say that in games I play (VSync is ON) I see no difference in performance AT ALL between the cards. IL-2 is an exception but it is "TWAT" certified as we all know.

Benchmarks are different, but if BOTH brands can push a steady 60fps+ at your preferred resolution/settings then it is just stupid to argue if the other brand can do 200fps and the other 190fps..as you can not see the difference at all

[Meusli]

Well the question I want to know is will the game use Physx at any point, because that's a great Nvidea selling point.

[Triggaaar]

I doubt it. Oleg certainly said it doesn't at the moment.

Since this is a SOW related debate, I would say that NVidia seems to be the best choice for SOW...Otherwise, Oleg would have mentionned AMD's interest in the game ...Be sure that if we have graphic issues with the game, it will fall on AMD's shoulders fast enough...
And about the price...We are talking about $150.00 between the very top GTX580 and wathever is coming under...We have been waiting for this game for about what ? 5 years ?....Its is $30.00 a year that I have put in my piggybank...So, yep, the NVidia is the fastest for the upcomming months...

Salute !

[addman]

Isn't it very simple though? Buy the best you can for the money you have! I can't afford a new monster card at the moment but even if I could, why would I want to fork out X amount of € now? SoW is still far off. General advice, wait til SoW is released, try it with your current hardware. You might be surprised/dissapointed at the performance but at least you'll know what the game demands, IMHO of course.

Originally Posted by addman

Isn't it very simple though? Buy the best you can for the money you have! I can't afford a new monster card at the moment but even if I could, why would I want to fork out X amount of € now? SoW is still far off. General advice, wait til SoW is released, try it with your current hardware. You might be surprised/dissapointed at the performance but at least you'll know what the game demands, IMHO of course.

Good advice. Everyone always quotes Nvidia/ATI's flagship card, but really few people buy them. They're just bragging rights because anyone with 1/2 a brain waits for the next "middle of the road" card release 3-4 months later that has the same or better performance at 1/2 the price. I'm waiting a few months after it's out. Maybe wait for a patch or two. Then after all the reviews and tests are out I'm going to pick the card (whatever brand) that runs it best for the money I'm willing to spend.

As for AMD/ATI not sending a card or a rep over, I can totally understand that.

"Hey, we got a call from Russia, about SOW."
"What game?"
"Storm of war, the guys that made IL-2, it's been in development for the past 5 years."
"A flight sim. . . been developed for 5 years? Forget about it."

Sounds like ATI missed out on a highly lucrative opportunity! It's a wonder they own over 1/2 the market. Oh wait! They don't have to do jack since anyone making a game would be stupid to not use ATI samples to appeal to over half the market.

Hmm. . . Spend money by sending a rep and free cards over so you get a logo on boot-up? Or save your money and time on a niche release and have the developers do it themselves?

[swiss]

Originally Posted by speculum jockey

Good advice. Everyone always quotes Nvidia/ATI's flagship card, but really few people buy them. They're just bragging rights because anyone with 1/2 a brain waits for the next "middle of the road" card release 3-4 months later that has the same or better performance at 1/2 the price. I'm waiting a few months after it's out. Maybe wait for a patch or two. Then after all the reviews and tests are out I'm going to pick the card (whatever brand) that runs it best for the money I'm willing to spend.

As for AMD/ATI not sending a card or a rep over, I can totally understand that.

"Hey, we got a call from Russia, about SOW."
"What game?"
"Storm of war, the guys that made IL-2, it's been in development for the past 5 years."
"A flight sim. . . been developed for 5 years? Forget about it."

Sounds like ATI missed out on a highly lucrative opportunity! It's a wonder they own over 1/2 the market. Oh wait! They don't have to do jack since anyone making a game would be stupid to not use ATI samples to appeal to over half the market.

Hmm. . . Spend money by sending a rep and free cards over so you get a logo on boot-up? Or save your money and time on a niche release and have the developers do it themselves?

Really?
You may have noticed the PC market is not emerging but shrinking.
As a result any manufacturer would be well advised to fill any niche they can find or are offered.
Not at any price of course.

The price of cards are peanuts, they would need maybe 6 cards, if they retail at $600, cost will be around $150/p.
Big bucks, huh?

As for sending a rep over - AMD have a Moscow office...

BTW: I now of a few bicycle companies who had exactly the attitude you suggested - all of them went for chapter 11.
Rock Shox and Cannondale are probably the most famous of them.

[Bricks]

Originally Posted by Meusli

Well the question I want to know is will the game use Physx at any point, because that's a great Nvidea selling point.

You can enable a similar rendering on AMDs cards as well. So that argument is a little thin.

Another good hint, why there's not one in general better than the other. Both have their pros and cons.

If everybody would accept that, we could end the discussion here.



After all, since there is no info on how well the final SOW will run with either card, what is the point in making a fuzz anyway?

[robtek]

Rightly said!
The correct thread-title should be: Nvidia is SOW friendly.

[T}{OR]

Important thing to note when looking at all those reviews (e.g. when comparing the two current rivals HD 6970 vs. GFX 570):

GFX 570:

• quieter & colder
• better value for money

HD 6970:

• hotter and louder
• has more RAM - must have if you're playing on more than one monitor

Originally Posted by robtek

Rightly said!
The correct thread-title should be: Nvidia is SOW friendly.

Oleg himself confirmed that he will be sending early versions of the game to Nvidia for optimizing. That was over a month ago.


Performance wise, both cards are almost equal with only difference in some games for which they are better optimized. Since 570 is an nVidia card, the choice is obvious here.

However, the real diamond here is HD 6950. In CF it's performance is awesome. Decisions, decisions...