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Old 12-15-2010, 09:21 PM
EJGr.Ost_Caspar EJGr.Ost_Caspar is offline
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Can you deliver any trustable sources for.... fountains?

I mean, not those post war reports. Even still existing fountains are mostly made by new spare parts. Is there any original left? We need such sources to do it correctly or none at all. You know...
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Old 12-16-2010, 07:27 AM
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Can you deliver any trustable sources for.... fountains?

I mean, not those post war reports. Even still existing fountains are mostly made by new spare parts. Is there any original left? We need such sources to do it correctly or none at all. You know...
Hello Casper and thank you for your interest.

First I must make clear that water fountains are a secondary idea of mine.
You should not tackle them until you have the mid-air repairs finished.
That said....


Water fountains where undoubtedly a feature of the Second War. There are
three reasons I can say this so assuredly:

1) The invention of water fountains predates the Second War by over 1000
years and the erection of fountains was wide spread across Europe for a
period of several hundred years leading up to the Second War.

2) At archeological dig sites, fountains have been buried next to confirmed
war items such as war guns, war planes, war documents and war veterans.

3) "The Chronicle of the 20th CenturyKey Events in Nuneaton and district
in the last one hundred years compiled by Peter Lee 1940-49"


Chronicle Four (LINK) of this historical document contains a rare, first hand
account of the role fountains played in the Second War. The Entry for 1940
reads thus:
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1940

The water fountain in the Market Place was taken down and the water supply used for a static water tank in connection with air raid precautions. The old stone water fountain was stored for many years in the council yard in Queens Road at the back of the library.

10th January - Nuneaton Citizens Advice Bureau opened.

4th June - RAF Bramcote commissioned.

July - The 1st Polish Squadron came to be stationed at RAF Bramcote. No.300 Masovian, followed by Nos. 301, 304, 305.

20th August - King George VI and Queen Elizabeth paid a secret visit to RAF Bramcote to inspect a squadron of Polish aviators.

28th August - First air raid on Nuneaton. The Luftwaffe bombed Weddington - 1 dead.

14th November - The great blitz on Coventry, a few bombs were dropped around the Nuneaton area.
This not only shows that fountains existed in the war, but it also shows
that they where "in connection with air raid precautions". No doubt, there
would have been many more deaths on the 28th August, had it not been
for the fountain. However, I don't think that should be modeled in IL2 for
reasons of balance.

I have made a 3d model of what I think the fountain should look like in IL2.

edit: but not white.

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Old 12-16-2010, 08:25 AM
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I have made a 3d model of what I think the fountain should look like in IL2.

edit: but not white.

So fountains should be camouflaged ?
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:28 AM
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So fountains should be camouflaged ?
No....just normal fountain colour.
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:00 AM
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Letum... while I think, mid-air-repair would be a nice feature, I see fountains beeing more easily to implement, so due to our low timeframe, it would be first choise.

With 'easily to implement' I don't mean, that we consider to do a simplified model/function or such - no, we should make it work 100% historical and technical correct. I just want to assure you this.

However, your model already seems nice, I suppose, it doesn't contain any LoD or Damage models yet? Please feel free to continue it. We'll think about calculation about the water flow velocity (LPM - liter per minute) for varoius types.

Feel free to send us your datas at: daidalos.team@gmail.com

We there also can discuss a 'maybe'-way for mid-air repairs.
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:09 AM
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Datas will be transmitted with promptitude.
I will even go through the considerable emotional distress of making a damage model.
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:40 AM
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Datas will be transmitted with promptitude.
I will even go through the considerable emotional distress of making a damage model.
Please make sure that none of the modeled fountains is owned by NG Company.
This applies to plumbing and water too.
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:20 AM
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I think we need 6DOF before Fountains, seems there is a little Problem:

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Old 12-16-2010, 04:25 PM
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I think we need 6DOF before Fountains, seems there is a little Problem:


How ... phallic! I hope everything is alright with Letum.
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Just make sure that the blue fountains are not overmodelled!
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